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Offline Akira

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Question...
« on: June 13, 2007, 08:55:00 AM »
As a Japanese person, I play video games. Lots and lots of them.

RPGs, Shooters, et cetera.

However, my favorite type of game?

...Visual Novels. Visual Novels and dating sims.

So I'd like to ask...

Does anyone here share my Konata-esque hobby? >_>;;;;
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Re: Question...
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2007, 11:58:27 AM »
I can't read Japanese, so I don't get to play the best visual novel ones (Anything from Key, Kana: Imoto, Higurashi, etc.), and therefore do not play them that often. I end up watching the anime after the fact xD

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Re: Question...
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2007, 12:19:40 PM »
As one unfamiliar to moonspeak, I also have little access to visual novels. As for the ones that have been translated, I am still far too young (10 days left), and the law says that they may threaten to scar my mind and forever put an end to my days of innocence.

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Re: Question...
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2007, 04:47:12 PM »
I've played a few dating sims. They haven't struck me as anything special to be honest. Haven't played any visual novels though and my lack of any japanese skill means i probably get around to playing any


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Re: Question...
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2007, 05:22:54 PM »
The problem with visual novels is that their not easily accessible for people that don't speak Japanese.  I've read about a quarter of Kanon and all of Planetarian, and I could never get Kana: Imouto to work to my computer.

It's a medium that I've always wanted to explore more, since the little I have seen has impressed me, but in the end I generally find it much easier to watch the (oft disappointing) anime adaptations.

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Re: Question...
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2007, 07:04:54 PM »
You know, speaking of anime adaptations, there were an awful amount of H-game adaptations last year... Happiness!, (Green Green? did that come out last year?), etc, etc.

If anyone's interested in visual novels, or just looking for a good read, I highly suggest Narcissu. It's by a doujin group called Stage-Nana, and translated by insani.

So please, if you wish, go ahead and enjoy.  This is one game that shook me profoundly.
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Re: Question...
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2007, 08:30:15 AM »
Aside from one random Evangelion dating sim on Newgrounds, I have absolutely no experience with the genre.  It's not really my thing.

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Re: Question...
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2007, 01:38:37 PM »
I've played exactly one dating sim game (made in Korean) titled 'Plus +', which was several years ago. I tried to find any information on english sites and looks like it's so bad I can't even find a word of mention of it in any sites, let alone wiki. Still, it had three attractive and interesting girls, and I made effort to play all three storylines despite how bullshit my own character was (a 18 year old CEO of one of the most powerful companies in the world, who's also black belt in Judo, Taekwondo, professional level at tennis, drives like Schumacher etc etc you get the point).

I have tried to read Narcissu few months ago after completing Kanon 2006 and becoming interested in the visual novels. I can't say how good it is overall since I've given up reading more, after the point where the girl and the boy runs off together from the hospitol. But this seems like one of the better examples of this genre, so I find it highly probable that it's not my thing.

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Re: Question...
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2007, 04:34:11 AM »
Akira:  I just finished Narcissu.  OMG ;-;

You got any other good (translated) visual novel recommendations?

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Re: Question...
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2007, 08:24:29 AM »
I support Sorrow-kun's request, untranslated is fine as well for me though. I hardly have played any visual novels yet but it's something I've wanted to look into a bit more. I don't have awefully much time at my hands (I still can't read Japanese all that fast), so I'd appreciate it if you could just recommend the best of the best. :)

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Re: Question...
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2007, 01:43:52 PM »
Sorrow, play Red Shift, and wait for Narci 2 to finish translating. >_>
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Re: Question...
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2007, 07:10:23 AM »
Being ignored, am I? pffff....

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Re: Question...
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2007, 07:29:39 AM »
Sorry, I didn't see the question. Mueti, my recommendation is the same as Sorrow's:

PLAY NARCISSU. Seriously, DROP EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW and PLAY NARCISSU.

Then, when you're done with that, check out Red Shift, (and if you're over 18 and not offended by pornography), Yume Miru Kusuri and Kana Imouto.

We can go from there. >_>
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Re: Question...
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2007, 12:16:56 PM »
Thanks very much!
And I'm far from being offended by pornography. :D

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Re: Question...
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2007, 10:14:25 AM »
Visual novels are a joke. Read a book. And if you're playing for the adult content, download some porn, with real people.

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Re: Question...
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2007, 03:46:47 PM »
Phate,

Certainly, you wouldn't be the first to think that visual novels are just a lame replacement for literature. However, as Tomo Kataoka noted in his work Narcissu, there's a reason why they exist. The difference between a normal book and a visual novel is that in the latter, the creator has more power to set ambiance with an additional set of tools: music and images.

Yes, the imaginative of us may be able to create our own scenery, but to hear original music and artwork along with the text adds greatly, if only because it isn't your own imagination at play. You also get a closer feel of what the creator intended originally.

And Akira, I'd say the same to you. DROP EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW AND PLAY RED SHIFT.

The best starter visual novels would be those from al|together 2006/2005, a yearly translation festival hosted by insani and the haeleth gemot.

http://altogether.insani.org
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http://at2006.haeleth.net (al|together '06)

My particular favorites are (precursor to a|t 2005) Narcissu, Red Shift (precursor to a|t 2006) and Adagio.

The best easily-accessible professional-work amateur translation would be insani's localization of Planetarian. The game costs $10, but it's money well worth paying.

I loved everything in a|t 2005, but a|t had more diversity. Didn't quite like it as much.

Having served as one of the main proofreaders in the mirrormoon Tsukihime project, let me say this: avoid Kinoko Nasu's writing.

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Re: Question...
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2007, 08:20:16 PM »
Played Narcissu.

Now that's one VN that deserves an anime adaptation. Hell, given the right actors, a live-action adaptation might work even better. (I call YUI from "Midnight Sun" for Setsumi, BTW)

Played Red Shift.

Holy mind****. There's just so much to like about it, not least because it turns the idea of the KEY male lead on its head. :p

Played Kana: Imouto.

Used to think it's very good, but nowadays I'm not as enamoured of it as I was in the past. Not that I'd say it's bad in any way, though.

Waiting with bated breath for Narci2. Hoping that either Haeleth or KeyFC releases soon.

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Re: Question...
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2007, 09:16:16 PM »
lol I call Erica Sawajiri from Midnight Sun and 1 Litre of Tears for Setsumi >.>;;;

I need to play red shift. T_T
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Re: Question...
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2007, 10:39:50 AM »
Oh, guys, this is what happens when you take a hobby a bit too far:

http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/dqnplus/imgs/a/1/a1a080f3.jpg

If you're offended by H, or nudity in general, don't click on that. But seriously, OTL.
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Re: Question...
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2007, 09:00:50 PM »
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Oh, guys, this is what happens when you take a hobby a bit too far:
 
http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/dqnplus/imgs/a/1/a1a080f3.jpg
 
If you're offended by H, or nudity in general, don't click on that. But seriously, OTL.

 
Wow, a genuine otaku... figures. The monitors themselves must've cost a fortune. Seriously though, no one in NHRW should be offended by that image.
 
Hentai is the fundamental establishment that NHRW is built on in the first place :V.

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Re: Question...
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2007, 09:04:41 PM »
Quote from: Akira
Oh, guys, this is what happens when you take a hobby a bit too far:

http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/dqnplus/imgs/a/1/a1a080f3.jpg

If you're offended by H, or nudity in general, don't click on that. But seriously, OTL.

What otaku fund managers do in their free time...

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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2007, 11:12:52 PM »
There was a time when I was walking through a street, I think it was somewhere near Shibuya station where you can see love hotels. One of the place had the sign 'pc' with some japanese words, and since I needed to send emails (because crappy but cheap capsule hotels don't have a pulbic computer), I decided to drop in. O yea, I had to go upstairs too because no one was at the counter. Seeing the room upstairs made me go WTF. The kind of WTF moment as you see a photo like that. I don't know if you've seen a round looking room, surrounded by bright white coloured walls with photos of Japanese models (i hope? maybe porn stars), and this one, nice looking computer on a desk in the middle of the room. Yea, I didn't really need someone to come and tell me 'this isn't the internet cafe to send your emails'. Bizarre. Definitely one of more memorable sights Japan can offer for a foreigner, although for a wrong reason.

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Re: Question...
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2007, 06:15:31 AM »
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There was a time when I was walking through a street, I think it was somewhere near Shibuya station where you can see love hotels. One of the place had the sign 'pc' with some japanese words, and since I needed to send emails (because crappy but cheap capsule hotels don't have a pulbic computer), I decided to drop in. O yea, I had to go upstairs too because no one was at the counter. Seeing the room upstairs made me go WTF. The kind of WTF moment as you see a photo like that. I don't know if you've seen a round looking room, surrounded by bright white coloured walls with photos of Japanese models (i hope? maybe porn stars), and this one, nice looking computer on a desk in the middle of the room. Yea, I didn't really need someone to come and tell me 'this isn't the internet cafe to send your emails'. Bizarre. Definitely one of more memorable sights Japan can offer for a foreigner, although for a wrong reason.
Umm... can you PM me the address to that place? Might come in handy soon...
 
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Re: Question...
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2007, 06:46:48 AM »
No need to do that, AC; there's way too many of those. I remember I went to a shop where the inside of the elevator was PLASTERED with pictures of porn stars. That shop sold manga intended for all ages and DS games.

Weird country? Yes.
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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2007, 07:35:59 AM »
Yea, there a countless numerb of shops where you can buy porn/anime porn (most likely to be at the top floor of any manga selling store). But this one was...weird...I mean, obviously a very sensually alarming place, and this one little computer in the middle and nothing else to be seen. The mental image of what you're supposed to be doing there and the fact that someone is making a business of it, and also the fact that they might have a customer there was just...ugh, only if you've been there x_x

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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2007, 07:41:56 AM »
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...and also the fact that they might have a customer there was just...ugh, only if you've been there
That seals it - I will be there... hawt dawg! Nippon, here I come!
 
*AC's raping urges begins to erupt
 
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