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Re: The Ancient Magus' Bride
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2017, 08:22:17 PM »
Oh good, I'm not the only one who doesn't like their relationship right now.
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Re: The Ancient Magus' Bride
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2017, 07:07:18 PM »
I just wonder if Chise will eventually become independent and gain self-esteem, thereby distancing herself from Elias, or simply continue to be his dependent. I really wish for the former to happen, but you never know.

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Re: The Ancient Magus' Bride
« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2017, 09:37:27 PM »
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Okay, this episode and the last are basically about understanding Elias's character. Why didn't I realize something so obvious sooner.

Although I see a bit of problem in Chise's rationalizing to be dependent on Elias, she's self-aware about it and knows that she has to do something about it sooner or later (or at least sort out her feelings first). Elias is basically a monster who mysteriously has (or gained?) a sense of humanity: he doesn't understand empathy, but he's not evil either. If anything, this story bears a stark resemblance to (you guessed it) Beauty and the Beast.

And this show really has a knack for making magical moments. That last dancing scene was mesmerizing.

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Re: The Ancient Magus' Bride
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2017, 02:24:03 PM »
Ruth: "It's important to love something other than yourself. It's important both to protect that something, as well as for your own sake."

Sometimes co-dependency can be a good thing.

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Re: The Ancient Magus' Bride
« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2017, 01:03:00 PM »
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So Chise's mom wasn't a Carrie fruitcake after all. 

Nevin gently but firmly kicked Chise out of her self-pity loop.   Chise has really grown; Elias not so much.
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Re: The Ancient Magus' Bride
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2018, 04:07:16 PM »
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Spoiler for Daawwwww...:

I wanna woolbug plushie pillow.

For someone who claims that he is incapable of feeling empathy Elias' tender loving nuzzles of Chise would seem to belie that assertion.

That ending escalated rather quickly.
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Re: The Ancient Magus' Bride
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2018, 03:51:42 AM »
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Well, this is where the OAV specials fit into the continuity, so if you haven't seen them, you can go watch them now.

The opening of this episode gave us Jouji Nakata's manly sexiness conjuring up all kinds of foreshadowing and ended with Chise becoming Naruto.
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Re: The Ancient Magus' Bride
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2018, 12:25:18 AM »
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Is that Akino on the ED? Sweet.

This episode demonstrates why I think the previous criticisms of Chise and Elias' relationship, and of Chise in general, were premature. The first 12 episodes slowly built up Chise's character to challenge the twisted relationship the two leads were in, culminating in episode 12 which broke Chise out of her shell and let her take flight (both literally and metaphorically). We see the results of that development in this episode through Chise and Elias bonding and forging a much healthier relationship based on trust. I wouldn't be surprised if the second half covers Elias' character arc, because we clearly see his flaws in this episode and his potential for growth. I really liked this episode, both for how it developed the characters and provided a sorely needed breather after the first half.
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Re: The Ancient Magus' Bride
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2018, 05:50:15 AM »
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I like how Chise has become more self-aware and mature about understanding her own feelings towards Elias, but one thing still remains: like most shoujo stories, the relationship is a little slanted. Chise is still a damsel in distress, and although she did save Elias at one point, she was still being one then. This dynamic hasn't changed, unfortunately.

And I wonder, how many long sleeps have she had since the start of the show...

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Re: The Ancient Magus' Bride
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2018, 05:45:06 PM »
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My but they do like their cliffhangers.  Actually, this time it didn't work for me.

That bit about Ancient Eye turning Chise into a fox and her running off free was short and unexplained.  It was also ultimately pointless, but I guess it was to get Elias to once again recover Chise's feelings.  Otherwise, it was unrelated to the rest of the episode and really was jarring in hindsight. 
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Re: The Ancient Magus' Bride
« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2018, 06:22:56 AM »
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Yeah, I didn't get the fox scene either. Seems like a huge segue.

But I gotta admit, this show has a knack for making magical moments. I didn't know watching a fox running through the forest at night, or watching someone saying goodbye can be so visually amazing.

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Re: The Ancient Magus' Bride
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2018, 07:11:57 PM »
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There's some damn irony in Leanan Sidhe telling Silky to get over it and move on.
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