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Juuni Taisen
« on: October 04, 2017, 11:40:54 AM »
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Well, you can't complain about the production value in this one. The songs are catchy too.

As for the rest...
-Its quite overblown, for better or worse.
-The PoV narration is done well enough.
-The competition has(needs?) no sensible reason for existing.
-Writing wants us to ignore a lot of plot-induced stupidity.
-It's also fairly predictable. If it does want to be beautiful, gory camp, then I'd say it needs to disrespect its own death flags a bit more.
-Everybody, crap your hans

Lastly,
Spoiler for Hiden:
-As far as its place in the rest of the show goes, this episode is likely quite the waste of potential, because its first ~15 minutes of characterization into Boar eventually get dumped into what is most likely just going to be a zombie.

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Re: Juuni Taisen
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2017, 01:12:33 PM »
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Well that was something.  Quite a bit more than I was expecting, frankly, which was zero to begin with.  Pebble went over the most important parts:  it has great production values and is executed pretty well.  Like many other battle royal type themes, it already suffers from one of the most glaring problems:  why?

Well, maybe that isn't important.  This is all part of an organization who are apparently ultra powerful, including having the ability to grant any wish, even if that requires magic.  Since special powers have already been mentioned, it appears that this world is like our own but with a lot of metaphysical stuff being reality.  How open that metaphysical stuff is to the rest of the world remains to be seen, but like with the Fate universe, there are several "elite families" who are regularly involved in this.  I don't know exactly how warriors such as this can ever get to know each other without many of them dying beforehand, but our Boar knew quite a few of the others.  In any event, this thing happens, this thing is important, this thing carries prestige, and it is happening and we just have to deal with it.

The rest of it is kind of stupid.  The idea of the gems is okay until they revealed that the gems react with stomach acid to release a poison in the body.  That's okay for a time limit kind of setup which is what they were doing, but the problem arose where the referee admits that the gems may react with some people faster than the 12 hour limit.  Which makes sense from my perspective as a chemist, the environment in which a reaction is carried out is pretty damn important when considering rates of reaction and such.  Thing is, if the gems release the poison and kill the participant early, how is anybody supposed to recover the stupid thing?  Maybe they're just disqualified at that point and their gem doesn't matter.  I don't know.

I'm actually okay with Boar being set up from the beginning and then getting the ax at the end.  It isn't like she's a particularly good person or anything, so her getting killed is simple karma.  Much like Shiki, one of the main characters, or what we were led to believe as such, is killed early and left the audience with a bit of a jarred reaction.  I'm not sure she's "done" yet, though.  Fading to black at the end of an episode as a cliffhanger is open to interpretation.  Someone may rescue her last minute to serve their own purposes.  Monkey maybe.  Since Monkey is the "wise" character, undoubtedly she'll be a puppetmaster of sorts in a less literal sense than the Rabbit.  I loved how Monkey talking about it put the kibosh on the idea of having people coming back to life after this is over.  Like a big fat glaring neon sign saying "WE'RE NOT DOING THE MAI-HIME / AKUMA NO RIDDLE THING, SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS".

I'm intrigued, though I am turning my brain off and just enjoying this one for pure violent ridiculousness. 
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Re: Juuni Taisen
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2017, 08:35:11 PM »
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absolutely zero interest in anything that occurred.
Impressive

Apparently this was created by Nisio Isin.

Where is my Twisted Metal anime?
« Last Edit: October 04, 2017, 08:50:31 PM by Zeitgeist »

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Re: Juuni Taisen
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2017, 12:08:57 PM »
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Call me crazy but I think there might be more to this one than meets the eye - I'll report back after a few more episodes.

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Re: Juuni Taisen
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2017, 02:30:54 AM »
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Ooh, I lurve this show.

I've never heard of the studio Graphinica, actually (apparently it did Hellsing OVAs, which I never watched). But it works like a Madhouse, so I ain't complaining. A deliciously stylish and violent show warrant slick production values, and Graphinica is delivering it, so I'm really happy.

Story-wise, I was already expecting some plot holes. I didn't really pay attention to the whole crystallized poison thing; it sounds like constructed bullshit to me to just keep the story going. I'm just happy to see that this show is basically a bloody battle royale with good action sequences. Nothing as complicated as say, Ousama Game will probably try to be. I'm a simple viewer, really.

Seems like there are still a number of animals not revealed yet. Boar/Pig is the first victim; and Ox and Sheep/Goat are touted as favorites. Usually, when the Chinese zodiac is concerned, it's usually the Rat or the Dragon who are dark horses (not to be confused with Horse), both of which are still unknown. I dig Rabbit's Mad-Hatter rendition; that's swell. Plus, I was wondering why the entire episode was narrated profusely from only the Boar's POV, but now I know: every episode will be told from first-person view in the style of Character of the Week. I actually like this.

I say bring it on. This is fun.

P.S. I'm born in 1986 so I back Tiger (or the Ox, since my birth date is in the beginning of January but whatever). Go #TeamTiger!
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Re: Juuni Taisen
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2017, 06:37:44 AM »
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Some how, when chicken (or actually roaster) appears, I keep thinking of a scene from  Aho-girl

Sayaka: I'm A-kun san's friend. And I'm not ready for a relationship. (Tilt head, with pastel color background)
Aho's Mom: Sluttest line in the book.

And Dog fall for it.

It seems there are some people who want to stop the battle. But with all the back stabbing, I some how will doubt it. And it seems that Boar won the previous battle....by hiding until times up. And what is going to be interesting is that the different characters will have different styles. It seems they have one fighting stle, and one special ability.
Monkey; forming connection and negotiation. Planning, putting traps, forming alliance. Not sure of combat style.
Rat; unknown
Horse; Power and speed.
Dog; alter body chemistry to form or neutralize poison. CQB hand to hand combat
Boar;Long rang MG. Ability to reload?
Rabbit;Sabers fighting. Necromenist
Dragonnknown. Flamerthrower?
Ox;Speed?
Goat;explosion and traps?
Chicken;Communicate with birds. Powerful grip?
Dragon;???


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Re: Juuni Taisen
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2017, 11:17:54 AM »
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-Writing wants us to ignore a lot of plot-induced stupidity.

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Re: Juuni Taisen
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2017, 05:19:23 AM »
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The contestants are dying even before they got to fight.

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Re: Juuni Taisen
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2017, 12:31:54 PM »
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Well, I mean, dogs are dumb, so yeah.  Also, nobody can beat the cock.
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Re: Juuni Taisen
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2017, 06:34:14 PM »
If their animal sign is representative of their character, I'm intrigued. It would make a lot of sense for other animals: the Monkey and Rat are the cunning ones, the Goat is wise, etc.

But Dragon dead from the onset? So sed.

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Re: Juuni Taisen
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2017, 07:17:55 PM »
Dragons don't exist.
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