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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2017, 10:30:29 AM »
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2017, 03:16:06 PM »
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The episode was dope, and I enjoyed it greatly, but I want to examine the scene in which the gods descend from the heavens and start the ass whooping. There were almost no sound effects, only music; I see what they were going for, but ultimately I don't think it worked out. If you want the scene to be quiet and muted to contrast all the explosions, then epic choir music ruins the effect. If you want the scene to be loud and bombastic, then muting the explosions also ruins the effect. I think they needed to have soft, ominous music and no sound, or no music and tons of explosions.
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2017, 07:46:17 PM »
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It's Indianan Jones and Temple of Doom Disneyland ride. Along with it's water splash. I like the 'comic' way Nina runs. It's like Looney Tunes/Little Witch Academia, but with realistic movement. It's all this little stuff they do, and the dramatic way they did the battle like what MK said, that make it great.
Rita cares for Kaiser, so she built and exploding prosthetic hand?  Urrrr... Thank you? At least it magically activated. Or else it would have blown up when Charioce stuck his sword in it. I also can understand why Rita gave the trigger code to Favaro. Nice to see them fight. It's like a Tag Team.
Charioce's secret weapon looks like it came from Tron's world. It serve a good contrast to heaven's type of weaponry.

Solders of Heaven reminds me of Star Wars Clone Troopers. And are all the female prison guards are 'large size'?

I still think Rita got some feelings for Kaiser. She was 'jealous' by the way Kaiser greated Jeanne.

Post ending art. It was drawn by Daoko? The singer the ed song?
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2017, 05:37:11 AM »
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Huh, didn't know this is also a two-cour show.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2017, 12:42:00 AM »
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The God's got screwed. It's a 24 episodes?

Finally, Kaiser did shout......
 
FAVAROOOO.

Must be tiring for Rita to take of the two boys. Once again,it the little things that make it nice. Like the way Rita's Hand-kun points and wave good bye.

One dumb question. Rita's parachuting. It is her magic? Or being a zombie, she's physically light?

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2017, 04:55:05 AM »
Eh, gonna drop this show. I knew about the two-cour thing all along.

It's just that I've never been that invested in this show. I can tell by seeing how I only comment in this thread occasionally. It's not that kind of show that I can comment much.

FAREWELL, FAVARO!

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2017, 06:51:55 AM »
I was looking for something new to watch, and I saw enjoyable nonsense mentioned on the first page (plus some amusing anime memes involving Nina).  Marathoned the first season, enjoyable nonsense it was. being 2-cour, this doesn't have the same fast paced epic feel to it, but I have been enjoying ti so far, even if it is very predictable (I think I spoilered myself a little bit when double checking how to spell Charioce. If the snippet I saw it true, then yeah, saw that coming from ten miles away. In fact, I was expecting it to have happened already). I'm pretty sure I know how it's going to end...unless...nah, save the speculation for closer to the end.

Charioce I find an interesting character, cause I think Nina is right. He's not a good king. His go to response to problems is violence, and that's never a good long term plan for a successful kingship. But I kind of think he knows this, which is why he laughed when Nina told it to his face. None of his other lackeys have the gumption to say it, though they might think it, except maybe his SA.....Onyx Knights. My biggest concern with Virgin Soul is that Charioce's raison d'etre is going to be really lame.  Boohoo, my family got killed in a spat between the gods and demons, join the queue kid. I want nothing less than wanting ascend to be THE god of this world, and since the current gods wont allow some punk kid from the sticks to do that....

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2017, 06:05:14 AM »
Ok, not buying anything about the end of episode 17. Even if the last frame in the episode proper is a psyche out and he does actually care about Nina, it's unbelievable because we've never seen him doubt his decisions since he met her. However, going by the more obvious and likely route, it's still unbelievable since subtlety has not been part of Charioce's repertoire to date. Baldric make more cunning plans than he does. Him manipulating a young woman'f feelings for his own ends doesn't jive with his his other plans, which were about as subtle as a giant rock.

I'm guessing the 'next time they meet' will be on the final battlefield with her wailing about his sudden but inevitable betrayal. We need more Favaro.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2017, 07:17:33 AM »
So Nina decided to put aside here conflict with Charioce because he makes her feel tingly in the pants. Well that was a let down. No doubt the pendant is the identifier for the dragon hunter they just hired. Curse your.......entirely predictable betrayal?

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2017, 08:40:45 AM »
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Production is still great. Right down to smallest detail. Testing out my new Bluetooth earphones. I can hear hear the click clack of the shoes during the dance.

Somehow, with the longer episode, they have added more drama to the series. But this diluted what makes Rage of Bahamut fantastic. It's just non stop action. Virgin Soul has slowed down too much. Now with romance, heaven plot, with a depressed angle. It feels it got dragged out to get 24 episode.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2017, 07:10:23 AM »
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Well that was.....mostly predictable. However, I didn't expect Sophiel to get involved in the fight, less to straight up pwn that dragon dude. I get the feeling that after Michael died, Heaven has been left in the hands of the least competent senior angel. If they could divide their foes and take them on in penny packets, the angels could easily regain their place at the top of the food chain. But Gabriel seems determined to bring Charioce to decisive battle where he has all his tricks and tools available to him.

I was also taken off guard by Alessand as well. He's been established as a bit of a blow hard, so I didn't think he would actually have what it takes to try an claw his way up the ladder. I also thought he was going to kidnap El, but straight up shanking the kid? No doubt the Onyx Knight guy would be pleased about that. Not that I think the show will actually go as far as letting El die.....

From what they've been saying I'm guessing that Charioce wants to use this new toy they've been building to release Bahamut, and the hand thing to destroy it. I'm also guessing it's going to go horribly wrong and FAVAROOOO! is going to have to save the day.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2017, 09:23:44 PM »
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Final fight was a puff than a bang. At least they tie up most of the loose end. It also confirm that Rita do have feelings for Kaiser. And Bacchus is in love with Sophia?

They leave room from Bahamut III. But Nina and Charioce chapter seems to be close

Trivia: Rita's assistant hand Rocky, that's Kaiser's real hand that has been zombiefied.

Final thoughts
What makes the first Bahamut a success was both in production quality and non stop action. Fvaro lying and scheming character was a fun anti hero. And his foil was a straight lace bro mence partner Kaiser. Top it off with a a lollicon zombie dorm mother to keep the boys in check. My guess is that Virgine Soul tries to avoid making a repeat of the first Bahamut. Thus new characters, new plot, the old characters become more supporting. Slow it down for more dram and romance. By doing that, it lost the magic of the first Bahamut.

They try to get Nina as someone energetic, clumsy but kind heart. She's not a stunning beauty. So  it's an attempt to break the stereo type female heroine. We expect more form a female lead, but all Nina got was her hyper active energy level. And unlike Favao, she has no foil to contrast. After while, she's boarder-lying irritating.

Favaro was so cut out. Every time he and Kaiser appears, it seems the old Bahamut's magic is back. But their on screen time is so limited.

But production, especially the dance, is so well captured. And the small details, an the hints, are well one.

After 12 episodes, I was going 'let's get on with it'. It did became a drag with the romance, Alessand's ambition was a distraction. El was too bland. Joan could have been more than a really cry. Azazel is as stupid as ever.

I give it a 7. And I add a 0.5 for production.

If Bahamut III was to be made, hope it will go back to Favaro and Kaiser. BTY, re-animated/zombified Kaiser looks like Friday from The Empire of Corpses.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2017, 07:19:59 AM »
I watched the last 4 episodes in succession, so some short thoughts on each

21: Wow, they really killed him. Was not expecting that. I thought the aftermath was done well, with each grieving in their own way.
22: So, he was trying to resurrect Bahamut after all. Not that it wasn't obvious or anything
23: The big fight...wait, Kaiser noooooo!
24: The thing actually worked? Considering they got it from Martinet's work, I assumed it was going to go horribly wrong because it was one of his long games to **** everyone over. Kaiser's a zombie, everyone's happy and Bahamut's not dead.

I never got what Nina saw in Charioce. Outside of his pretty boy looks, he did nothing but hurt and betray Nina at every turn. I also don't get why Charioce is still king at the end. He was utterly incompetent, choosing to brute force every decision he had to make, to the point that a major rebellion happened, that if Bahamut hadn't intervened he probably would have lost. He seemed to make the wrong choices from the very beginning, the explanation given suggests that their first course of action was to go to war with the gods. Did they even bother to approach Gabriel with this plan first? It promised to destroy Bahamut once and for all, maybe she would have helped? I mean, that could have been the conflict of the story, Gabriel does have a godly stick up her arse and could have told those ungrateful humans to piss off, forcing Charioce to a more drastic course of action. The demons I get, they spent generation torturing humans, so humans going overboard on the payback does make sense.

In the end, I couldn't get into the story, as I was going 'you are dumb. You make dumb decisions, none of this had to happen this way.' I think it being 2 cours didn't help in this regard, the extra drama wasn't needed. If Charioce had simply been the mad king trying to resurrect Bahamut so he can defeat it, then it might have worked. But I think they were trying to replicate the Favaro/Kaiser relationship with Nina/Chris, kind hearted vs cold and cynical. But because the spent so much screen time apart it didn't work for me. If it had been 12 episodes with the Nina/Charioce dynamic basically cut out and focussed on the mad king resurrecting Bahamut, then it probably would have captured the spirit of the first better.

That said, I didn't hate it. There were parts I enjoyed, so I'd give it a 6/10. Since they've sequel baited quite hard there, I am interested to see where they take it next. I was expecting a second season to follow Favaro as he tries to find a way to free Amira from Bahamut, maybe they'll go that route.
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