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Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« on: April 07, 2017, 07:38:28 PM »
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The same great animation is back, along with it's camera lens mud splatter effect. Some of the gang is back. All we need now is Favaro.

I feel the production mange to up the tempo by using western or Hollywood cliques. Like there's Knife Head from Pacific Rim. Destroyer Armour from Marvel's Thor. DC's Ragman. Using a Klingon blade weapon. Along with it's nice use of effect. Then they throw in a genki lovesick dragon. A mix of school girl shyness and a bit of the clumsy maid. It look clique, but they throw in a wrench in the work. And the Pink (Red?) Dragon shoots flame, not like the conventional fire stream, it's more like an under power Shin Godzilla's Nuclear Breath. I like it. Make me fall in love with it like the first Bahamut.

It's 10 years later. Kaiser stop adventuring with Favaro? Now a captain of the guard. And he seems to be in moral conflict with the treatment of the non humans. There is war economy, slave economy, decadence of the capital at the expanse of the countryside. It all spells Kaiser going to rebel and the capital is going down. Azazel has gone Batman. And Favaro was in 'next week episode intro'. Glad they still retain the banter. Wonder what happen to Amira.

Now Zombi Lolli is going to take care of Lovesick Dragon, this is going to be interesting.
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 08:39:15 PM »
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I missed this gleeful nonsense so much.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2017, 08:42:05 PM »
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Shit was dope.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2017, 11:00:36 PM »
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NO THIS WAS THE BEST OPENING OF THE SEASON, I WANT THE NEXT EPISODE RIGHT NOW GODDAMNIT!
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2017, 05:33:14 AM »
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FAVARO!!!

Oh wait, he's not around yet. Oh well. Entertaining first episode. Nothing much to ask so I'll just wait for the next episode.
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2017, 05:03:02 PM »
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OH MY GOD KEEP IT COMING BABY, I DON'T NEED DRUGS ANYMORE

Seems like Jesus is getting into the mix?
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2017, 05:13:37 AM »
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Good show, keep it up. Not sure what to feel for Nina; she's clearly the dense female answer to Favaro. Will she be as likable as him, though... hmm.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2017, 10:12:25 AM »
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Question
Are dragons part of the demon folks? Human were riding dragons in the first series.

Dragon folks are not discriminated. Is it because they can look human, without the blue skin, horns and wings.
Seems like Jesus is getting into the mix?
Actually, I was wondering is the child a mix of demon and angle parents. He was called a demon. And his powers were 'angelic'. Taking que from the comic 'The Preacher'. Such entity, when fuse with a human, is more powerful then God.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2017, 01:01:44 PM »
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YES YES YES I'M MORE IN LOVE WITH THIS SHOW THAN NINA IS WITH ALL THOSE HOT MEN

Finally got a clue where Favaro is, found out that yes, that is Kaisar's hand, the big players in the background are starting to move, and this first story arc has come to a climax. It blows my mind when I see that we're only on episode 3. Dope.
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2017, 08:08:49 PM »
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THE DRAMA! THE TRUE LOVE! JUST WHERE WILL THE ALLEGIANCES FALL?!

I did NOT expect Jesus to be a virgin birth from Jeanne, which just goes to show that I'm an idiot.
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2017, 07:43:00 PM »
I did NOT expect Jesus to be a virgin birth from Jeanne, which just goes to show that I'm an idiot.
I think Micheal is the father. Inter species off spring are more powerful. Like Nina is a half human/dragon. Or Amira is an angle/demon clone hybrid.

Nina  got no 'reaction' to her master, Favaro. Has he gone ugly?

But where is FAVORO???? Is he appearing at episode 11 and save the day?

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2017, 08:33:54 PM »
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I FINALLY GOT AMAZON STRIKE!  I AM FINALLY GETTING TO WATCH THIS!  I AM FINALLY ABLE TO CUM WITH THE FORCE OF A THOUSAND NINA LUST TRANSFORMATIONS!

WHEEEEEEE!!!
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2017, 12:02:08 PM »
BAHA BAHA BAHA SOUL BABY
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2017, 11:05:36 AM »
In case anyone was wondering, the main orchestral theme is a slight melodic variation of the Funeral March from Mahler's first symphony. Both are classy af.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2017, 01:46:12 PM »
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HOLD UP IS MUGARO A BOY OR A GIRL!? I DUN GET IT!!
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2017, 12:50:13 AM »
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Dr Rita was hoping a confession from Kaiser? That is so cute. If Favaro was around, Kaiser will never hear the end of this. If I remember, it was Kaiser that save Rita in the first series.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2017, 05:40:11 PM »
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It's a filler episode. Nothing much happen. It's one of those slow down before something big and shitty going to happen. But the details. How much did the spend on the dance seance. The CGI background bland in nicely. They must have real traditional folk dancers for the motion capture. They way the drum is being tap. It's all the details. Like the way Nina run back to pick up her goods.
The post ending banter was done by Charioce and Azazel's VA. And they even do their 'character' in the banter.

My opinion at this point. The plot lacks version. It's not as wide and epic as the first Bahamut. This plot do feel it's run of the mill with cut out characters. And all the events are in the capital city. Nobody went outside for adventure. But it's the small details that makes it great. They took Hollywood type cliques instead of anime cliques. And they took Nina's character and mix it with chocolate and LSD, and it got a sweet high. It's like a typical female anime lead, and they went overboard with it. So it still have the 'anime' feel rather then western style cartoon.

There is really no racist blood in Kaiser. Maybe he should send more time with Rita... And that is another thing I feel the production got it right. No time for Romance, so cut it out, except for Nina. But that's a  plot device. The word is FOCUS. So many anime ramp up the romance factor with lighting speed. It it's was a 24 series, then maybe some romance. So romance it out, adventure is in.

But where is FFAAVVAAROOO!!!???

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Just look at the way Charioce eat. He started off by using knife and fork. A cultured mannered person. Then he uses his fingers. Someone deep down, he's a rough thug. Without saying anything, it gives an insight to his character.
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2017, 06:17:32 PM »
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Azazael is confusing me. He thinks he's got a sure-fire way to trigger Nina's transformation, but what's he gonna do? Give her a hug? Use his demon powers?
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2017, 08:30:25 PM »
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I have an inkling that Charioce knows what Azazel is up to. He's taking a risk of leaving his castle and meeting up with Nina during the festival, which would be a good time for demons to take. He may actually know that Nina is the red dragon, and she is the key to Azazel's attack. Seeing how he can see through people easily, he knows that to get the red dragon to his side, he has to get through her heart.

Sadly, I just want to see Favaro. Stop teasing me, show.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2017, 01:08:17 PM »
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Ohhhh, Azazael is a dumbass. RIP
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2017, 04:29:46 AM »
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Rita's comment when she was cooking Zombie Omelet. She's in love?

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2017, 01:30:24 PM »
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Who cares about 8. I'm just waiting for 9. Guess who's back in 9???!!!

FAAVAROOO!!!. The gang will be back to kick the king's ass.

Back to 8

Azazel still as dumb as ever. Smart move by Kaiser. Won the fight without raising his sword. Nina lost her love. Cannot transform into a dragon. So sad. Favaro needs a shave.

I bet her transformation ability will be a plot device in the next few episodes.

Edit 1
Start to enjoy the ED, Haikei Goodbye Sayounara by DAOKO. Then I notice as Nina and gang was about to walk up the slop, there was Favaro in a Cage, pulled by a wagon. We are being trolled the whole time.

edit 2
The ED is like the old side scrolling game. At the start, Nina has 2 lives. (Upper right hand corner.) When she transformed, the 'game' get reset. And I notice the Nina got 1 life left.
So is her transformation ability related to her 'Life force'? Like she got a limited transformation ability, Or transforming will shorter her life span.
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2017, 10:28:55 PM »
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FAVARO!!!

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2017, 12:41:26 AM »
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THE GANG IS BACK TOGETHER, BABY! NOTHING CAN STOP US NOW!
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2017, 09:00:45 PM »
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That is SOOOOO evil. Shaving Favaro's afro hair.

The pro log is over. The real Rage of Bahanut has started. But's it's only 4 episode left. Dammed.

The king got some secret agenda. Why did he arrest and 'play' with Favaro?

Next week, the dome mother Rita will be in action. Nice to see her working out her necromancy instead of cooking at a festival stall.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2017, 08:05:14 PM »
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I really enjoyed that. It's still not clear who El actually is, be it Michael reborn or something new, but either way I'm glad we saw his backstory.
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2017, 08:59:12 PM »
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I am a bit disappointed. The back story is nice and it's explains El's past, but I want to see Dr Rita saving the man-boys

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2017, 03:02:27 PM »
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Miyuki Sawashiro has the sexiest voice in anime. It's both blessing and curse that she's voicing a little girl, but I suppose it adds to the "she's really 100 years old" business.

Are Charioce and Nina being teased as a couple? Or is his 'betrayal' just a way to drive Nina's character growth? We spent multiple episodes featuring the pair's interactions, so I hope more comes out of it. Maybe she'll be his redeeming angel?
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2017, 01:42:27 AM »
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Miyuki Sawashiro has the sexiest voice in anime. It's both blessing and curse that she's voicing a little girl, but I suppose it adds to the "she's really 100 years old" business.



From season 1, I think she's 200+ years old in Zombie town.

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It's a girls night out episode. From the post ED banter, I bet is Favaro and Kaiser next week.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2017, 05:01:09 AM »
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She recognizes him only now?

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2017, 10:30:29 AM »
Clark Kent wore glasses and nobody could recognize him as Superman.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2017, 03:16:06 PM »
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The episode was dope, and I enjoyed it greatly, but I want to examine the scene in which the gods descend from the heavens and start the ass whooping. There were almost no sound effects, only music; I see what they were going for, but ultimately I don't think it worked out. If you want the scene to be quiet and muted to contrast all the explosions, then epic choir music ruins the effect. If you want the scene to be loud and bombastic, then muting the explosions also ruins the effect. I think they needed to have soft, ominous music and no sound, or no music and tons of explosions.
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2017, 07:46:17 PM »
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It's Indianan Jones and Temple of Doom Disneyland ride. Along with it's water splash. I like the 'comic' way Nina runs. It's like Looney Tunes/Little Witch Academia, but with realistic movement. It's all this little stuff they do, and the dramatic way they did the battle like what MK said, that make it great.
Rita cares for Kaiser, so she built and exploding prosthetic hand?  Urrrr... Thank you? At least it magically activated. Or else it would have blown up when Charioce stuck his sword in it. I also can understand why Rita gave the trigger code to Favaro. Nice to see them fight. It's like a Tag Team.
Charioce's secret weapon looks like it came from Tron's world. It serve a good contrast to heaven's type of weaponry.

Solders of Heaven reminds me of Star Wars Clone Troopers. And are all the female prison guards are 'large size'?

I still think Rita got some feelings for Kaiser. She was 'jealous' by the way Kaiser greated Jeanne.

Post ending art. It was drawn by Daoko? The singer the ed song?
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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2017, 05:37:11 AM »
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Huh, didn't know this is also a two-cour show.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2017, 12:42:00 AM »
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The God's got screwed. It's a 24 episodes?

Finally, Kaiser did shout......
 
FAVAROOOO.

Must be tiring for Rita to take of the two boys. Once again,it the little things that make it nice. Like the way Rita's Hand-kun points and wave good bye.

One dumb question. Rita's parachuting. It is her magic? Or being a zombie, she's physically light?

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2017, 04:55:05 AM »
Eh, gonna drop this show. I knew about the two-cour thing all along.

It's just that I've never been that invested in this show. I can tell by seeing how I only comment in this thread occasionally. It's not that kind of show that I can comment much.

FAREWELL, FAVARO!

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2017, 06:51:55 AM »
I was looking for something new to watch, and I saw enjoyable nonsense mentioned on the first page (plus some amusing anime memes involving Nina).  Marathoned the first season, enjoyable nonsense it was. being 2-cour, this doesn't have the same fast paced epic feel to it, but I have been enjoying ti so far, even if it is very predictable (I think I spoilered myself a little bit when double checking how to spell Charioce. If the snippet I saw it true, then yeah, saw that coming from ten miles away. In fact, I was expecting it to have happened already). I'm pretty sure I know how it's going to end...unless...nah, save the speculation for closer to the end.

Charioce I find an interesting character, cause I think Nina is right. He's not a good king. His go to response to problems is violence, and that's never a good long term plan for a successful kingship. But I kind of think he knows this, which is why he laughed when Nina told it to his face. None of his other lackeys have the gumption to say it, though they might think it, except maybe his SA.....Onyx Knights. My biggest concern with Virgin Soul is that Charioce's raison d'etre is going to be really lame.  Boohoo, my family got killed in a spat between the gods and demons, join the queue kid. I want nothing less than wanting ascend to be THE god of this world, and since the current gods wont allow some punk kid from the sticks to do that....

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2017, 06:05:14 AM »
Ok, not buying anything about the end of episode 17. Even if the last frame in the episode proper is a psyche out and he does actually care about Nina, it's unbelievable because we've never seen him doubt his decisions since he met her. However, going by the more obvious and likely route, it's still unbelievable since subtlety has not been part of Charioce's repertoire to date. Baldric make more cunning plans than he does. Him manipulating a young woman'f feelings for his own ends doesn't jive with his his other plans, which were about as subtle as a giant rock.

I'm guessing the 'next time they meet' will be on the final battlefield with her wailing about his sudden but inevitable betrayal. We need more Favaro.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2017, 07:17:33 AM »
So Nina decided to put aside here conflict with Charioce because he makes her feel tingly in the pants. Well that was a let down. No doubt the pendant is the identifier for the dragon hunter they just hired. Curse your.......entirely predictable betrayal?

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2017, 08:40:45 AM »
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Production is still great. Right down to smallest detail. Testing out my new Bluetooth earphones. I can hear hear the click clack of the shoes during the dance.

Somehow, with the longer episode, they have added more drama to the series. But this diluted what makes Rage of Bahamut fantastic. It's just non stop action. Virgin Soul has slowed down too much. Now with romance, heaven plot, with a depressed angle. It feels it got dragged out to get 24 episode.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2017, 07:10:23 AM »
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Well that was.....mostly predictable. However, I didn't expect Sophiel to get involved in the fight, less to straight up pwn that dragon dude. I get the feeling that after Michael died, Heaven has been left in the hands of the least competent senior angel. If they could divide their foes and take them on in penny packets, the angels could easily regain their place at the top of the food chain. But Gabriel seems determined to bring Charioce to decisive battle where he has all his tricks and tools available to him.

I was also taken off guard by Alessand as well. He's been established as a bit of a blow hard, so I didn't think he would actually have what it takes to try an claw his way up the ladder. I also thought he was going to kidnap El, but straight up shanking the kid? No doubt the Onyx Knight guy would be pleased about that. Not that I think the show will actually go as far as letting El die.....

From what they've been saying I'm guessing that Charioce wants to use this new toy they've been building to release Bahamut, and the hand thing to destroy it. I'm also guessing it's going to go horribly wrong and FAVAROOOO! is going to have to save the day.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2017, 09:23:44 PM »
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Final fight was a puff than a bang. At least they tie up most of the loose end. It also confirm that Rita do have feelings for Kaiser. And Bacchus is in love with Sophia?

They leave room from Bahamut III. But Nina and Charioce chapter seems to be close

Trivia: Rita's assistant hand Rocky, that's Kaiser's real hand that has been zombiefied.

Final thoughts
What makes the first Bahamut a success was both in production quality and non stop action. Fvaro lying and scheming character was a fun anti hero. And his foil was a straight lace bro mence partner Kaiser. Top it off with a a lollicon zombie dorm mother to keep the boys in check. My guess is that Virgine Soul tries to avoid making a repeat of the first Bahamut. Thus new characters, new plot, the old characters become more supporting. Slow it down for more dram and romance. By doing that, it lost the magic of the first Bahamut.

They try to get Nina as someone energetic, clumsy but kind heart. She's not a stunning beauty. So  it's an attempt to break the stereo type female heroine. We expect more form a female lead, but all Nina got was her hyper active energy level. And unlike Favao, she has no foil to contrast. After while, she's boarder-lying irritating.

Favaro was so cut out. Every time he and Kaiser appears, it seems the old Bahamut's magic is back. But their on screen time is so limited.

But production, especially the dance, is so well captured. And the small details, an the hints, are well one.

After 12 episodes, I was going 'let's get on with it'. It did became a drag with the romance, Alessand's ambition was a distraction. El was too bland. Joan could have been more than a really cry. Azazel is as stupid as ever.

I give it a 7. And I add a 0.5 for production.

If Bahamut III was to be made, hope it will go back to Favaro and Kaiser. BTY, re-animated/zombified Kaiser looks like Friday from The Empire of Corpses.

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Re: Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2017, 07:19:59 AM »
I watched the last 4 episodes in succession, so some short thoughts on each

21: Wow, they really killed him. Was not expecting that. I thought the aftermath was done well, with each grieving in their own way.
22: So, he was trying to resurrect Bahamut after all. Not that it wasn't obvious or anything
23: The big fight...wait, Kaiser noooooo!
24: The thing actually worked? Considering they got it from Martinet's work, I assumed it was going to go horribly wrong because it was one of his long games to **** everyone over. Kaiser's a zombie, everyone's happy and Bahamut's not dead.

I never got what Nina saw in Charioce. Outside of his pretty boy looks, he did nothing but hurt and betray Nina at every turn. I also don't get why Charioce is still king at the end. He was utterly incompetent, choosing to brute force every decision he had to make, to the point that a major rebellion happened, that if Bahamut hadn't intervened he probably would have lost. He seemed to make the wrong choices from the very beginning, the explanation given suggests that their first course of action was to go to war with the gods. Did they even bother to approach Gabriel with this plan first? It promised to destroy Bahamut once and for all, maybe she would have helped? I mean, that could have been the conflict of the story, Gabriel does have a godly stick up her arse and could have told those ungrateful humans to piss off, forcing Charioce to a more drastic course of action. The demons I get, they spent generation torturing humans, so humans going overboard on the payback does make sense.

In the end, I couldn't get into the story, as I was going 'you are dumb. You make dumb decisions, none of this had to happen this way.' I think it being 2 cours didn't help in this regard, the extra drama wasn't needed. If Charioce had simply been the mad king trying to resurrect Bahamut so he can defeat it, then it might have worked. But I think they were trying to replicate the Favaro/Kaiser relationship with Nina/Chris, kind hearted vs cold and cynical. But because the spent so much screen time apart it didn't work for me. If it had been 12 episodes with the Nina/Charioce dynamic basically cut out and focussed on the mad king resurrecting Bahamut, then it probably would have captured the spirit of the first better.

That said, I didn't hate it. There were parts I enjoyed, so I'd give it a 6/10. Since they've sequel baited quite hard there, I am interested to see where they take it next. I was expecting a second season to follow Favaro as he tries to find a way to free Amira from Bahamut, maybe they'll go that route.
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