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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2017, 06:14:55 PM »
Shirabako is only in Japan. But this can be transport to other society. Like in farmland America, country side town in China, to Kampong in Malaysia. All these societies are facing the dying of the country side.

Thats... true.
Not sure how much that will matter.

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Frankly at some point the tourism shenanigans will have to take a backseat to some real story. At the moment this is insubstantial, and its going to continue to stay insubstantial if it keeps up with the Shirobako episode structure; Shirobako had a built-in concrete larger narrative in the production of the entire season. "Bringing a town back to life" isnt very concrete, and its mostly treated as an implicit joke. I think that already taints its potential to be treated as a topic for later on; the show simply doesnt treat the village as an attraction as, say, Non Non Biyori did, if you remember that.
Point is this tourism shit best take the backseat at some point.

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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2017, 12:06:20 AM »
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Just a whole lot of WTF this episode. When it wasn't being WTF it was just being heavy handed.
  casual incorporation of mecha
  IT Girl instantly falling for Sasuke
  Old Lady's statement that Riri needs to "report" her actions
  Sasuke's comments regarding local artistry
  IT Girl explaining her backstory and the implications therein

As I've mentioned this is all about the clashing of "traditionalist" ways with "modern" sensibilities...but this was just dumb. The idea of creating functional art pieces was actually brilliant. It was the core idea behind my lovely kegerator. The desire for a practical appliance which can also serve as a decorative show piece is good shit which has a genuine market. Yet the idea gets shot down cause Sasuke, a foreigner, has a problem with it. Why didnt we get a native woodworker's perspective? So the BIG problem this episode was that the 2 main girls were unable to contest Sasuke's claims. He was presented as correct. But he isnt. That is what is so frustrating. Now this was meant to serve as a character moment - IT Girl was fleshed out a bit, Main Girl identifies as an outsider(or hasn't truly put in the work to learn about the specific local customs), Sasuke takes pride in this regional art form - but none of this ****ing matters. While this is a "traditional" art form it is ****ing dead. Ain't nobody care about it. Sasuke should have some level of awareness and know that there is no future for him or this art. The fact that his stubbornness is presented as correct in this episode is frustrating. The fact that the girls were so easily disregarded just makes it all the worse. Why can't he create a piece which has the same level of detail and craftsmanship but also serves a functional purpose? Idk. None of this is going to matter as I'm sure the girl's will be able to present a more thorough argument in a later date causing Sasuke to relent...but ugh. This is, I suppose, good plot and character development. Here we have two members of the Tourist Promotion Board and yet they don't know shit about the local customs. So it isn't so much that their ideas are wrong, but simply that they don't have the proper level of knowledge/understanding/respect to convince local artisans to adapt their ways...but that wasn't what was presented here. There is a decent plot here but it just wasn't present this episode. My main thing is really "Why aren;t we dealing with Sasuke's Master who is, presumably, a Mayomama(?) native? Maybe Sasuke will get called out next episode.

How would those exo-skeletal monstrosities affect grip strength? That bucket of water example was bullshit. Having super-powered back muscles isn't going to allow me to deadlift 1000pounds seeing how I'd have to have the grip strength to necessary grasp the bar. Which isn't to say the guy shouldn't have been able to lift this specific bucket of water but that this is a massive design flaw.

That damn Bard remains a thing.

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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2017, 02:16:56 AM »
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We need to revitalize the town!
We don't know how to do that!
What are these things?
What is an exoskeleton?
You want me to try it out?
Wow these things are pretty cool!
They could revolutionize the ****ing world!
And we could build them here!
We could be the only town with a factory!
We'd be world famous!
We would make a shit ton of money and revitalize the town!

Oh no wait that's just me thinking!

Or maybe that's the joke.  I mean, the transforming vending machine is cute, and the super grabby arm thingy he was shopping with might be useful to the right people, but those exoskeletons could change the world.  I suppose there is supposed to be some humor in the obvious thing right in front of them not being on their radar.  I mean, they even dress it up to look like some kind of art piece with the wood carvings, which makes it a bit more impractical, which is another case of comically missing the point in two areas.  It is a pretty damned subtle joke if it was supposed to be.

Only one more comment:  IT HAS SOME SERIOUS ASS!
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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2017, 09:51:14 PM »
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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2017, 05:35:33 AM »
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It's f**king weird to see some techie weirdo and exo-skeletions in this show. I think the writers are just being lulzy for fun, but more importantly, to starkly contrast wood-carving which is as traditional as it gets.

But this episode deals with a lot of RL topics. Japan has a lot to offer in traditional arts and that's being severely endangered because of poor tourism and ultimately a shrinking population. I knew the direction the episode was taking: the ministry doing whatever they can to increase tourism, but inadvertently neglects the pride and feelings of the people invested in the tradition. It's only natural that Kazushi, aka the loner-artist trope, is offended by the ideas.

But the biggest topic here is about Sanae. It's obvious that everyone in the ministry has a reason to be living in a nondescript village such as Manoyama, and it's obvious to me that Sanae is escaping the city (isn't it too obvious when it was her who pointed out to Sakura what's so special about working in the big city). Work burnout, disengagement and disillusionment are all too familiar in discussion work-life, and Sanae is the epitome of all that.

Kazushi is her opposite, one who deliberately chose to live in Manoyama because of his sheer interest (or better yet, his calling). It doesn't seem sensible to a logical man on why pursue a dying art, but callings aren't about logic anyway. The ultimate difference between Sanae and Kazushi? Kazushi owns his work; work owned Sanae. Hence, Kazushi sees Sanae possibly as an insult; Sanae sees Kazushi as a figure of admiration. A love interest in the making? I'm very interested to see that.

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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2017, 05:21:30 AM »
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SANDAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!

Soul searching is a very real thing these days. I got to admit, this whole 'finding your passion' thing caught on me too and just about everyone else my age (I assume Maki, the central figure of all this, is around my age). She did run away from her work, but I can empathize: not getting recognition for hard work is very demotivating.

But she's conscientious, and that always helps in materializing plans, with Sakura very much being the opposite. Just not sure how the show conveniently solves the funding problem. Simply throwing in "CROWDFUNDING!" is just lazy: how many Kickstarter projects have failed remains to be forgotten almost every time. And the whole idea of connecting wood carvings to the train concept? That was brilliant.

The next character I'm interested in is Maki. She's the typical jack-of-all-trades but a master of none, and is originally from Manoyama. But is that all? Why is she back in her hometown at not in Tokyo where she seems to have gotten all her skills? She definitely has a story, and I hope to see it next.

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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2017, 11:06:48 PM »
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I like "Bard" instead of Sandal.  Meh.

The wood carving castle thing actually sounds like an incredible art project idea, really.  Buildings have become art pieces, put together by some damned talented designers and engineers, but they have lost that Gothic artstyle that predominated structures in he bygone years, usually on churches, which is more what this project is going for.  100 year plan?  Sure, why not, but that might not help the town for a while, if the plan even comes to fruition.  Might be neat to see them slowly progress that over the show, though, just in the background or something.
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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2017, 08:02:25 PM »
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Hmm... Manoyama of the Dead.

The next character I'm interested in is Maki. She's the typical jack-of-all-trades but a master of none, and is originally from Manoyama. But is that all? Why is she back in her hometown at not in Tokyo where she seems to have gotten all her skills? She definitely has a story, and I hope to see it next.

Called it.

At least there's more exposition to her that explains lots of things: why she seems to have many random skills, why is not doing her day job back in Tokyo, etc. Essentially, her story's rather familiar with millennials: finding something interesting but getting discouraged by setbacks, including a junior who wants it more. I can't criticize her much; I'm also like this to some extent. Grit is really what separates such people, and also finding something you want to struggle for. This episode is simply about this, and the generalist assistant director digging his heel in and Maki's brother sticking with taiko are other examples.

Suzuki apparently has a thing for Maki's brother. Hmm, wonder what this will lead to.

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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2017, 05:49:32 AM »
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Decent episode, although underwhelming.

Everything happened according to plan: Maki basically rediscovered her love for acting. The same thing happened to Sanae, so as an audience I only expected the same thing to happen. Her trip down memory lane bit was nicely done, though.

Oh, now I know why the episode was underwhelming: Sandal wasn't around!

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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2017, 06:36:19 AM »
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SANDAL WHERE ARE YOU

Promoting tourism via gourmet is a tried and tested approach, and so far it's been met with mediocre reception. For most parts, this approach only works in promoting local tourism, not international. For international tourism, it mostly works only for veteran travelers who really want something different from the usual tourist attractions/spots. Plus, such initiatives are usually harder because of its location. When you have novel ideas, it works to have it in the cities when the people are there to catch things on. More ideas, more people and then the cycle continues.

And of course, this is Shiori's episode. It's the usual generation story about taking over businesses and such. Pretty much a universal issue and not exclusively Japanese.

The big white elephant in the room is, what's the history behind Kadota and the Board of Merchants? I know they have history, but what exactly happened? To think it went all the back more than twenty years ago...

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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2017, 06:00:30 AM »
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YAY SANDAL!

Good episode, and good to see Shiori stepping up. But still, if there is any takeaway from this episode on boosting tourism, it's only in local context. For boost foreign tourism, it still won't work.

And Dokushima's mechanical turk somen machine is just facepalm.

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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2017, 12:49:03 PM »
The semi-mechanical soumen machine was... just awful.  I kept waiting for some kind of sexualization to be done there, what with a girl operating it in scant clothing, it having some rather tentacle like appendages, spitting water and soumen in her face, and what have you, but they somehow held back.

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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2017, 02:00:10 AM »
Good episode, and good to see Shiori stepping up. But still, if there is any takeaway from this episode on boosting tourism, it's only in local context. For boost foreign tourism, it still won't work.

I think Manoyama (plus equivalents) can afford to not give a damn about foreign tourism. Foreign tourists are usually looking for something a lot more, well, touristy than a village. By which I mean they are looking for shopping malls, beaches, or some ill-defined notion of 'culture' that usually equates to being ripped off buying souvineers made in China at the nearest shopping mall by the beach.

6-7:
This is the point where the Shirobako people in the staff decided they really couldnt help animating two more episodes of Shirobako.

8-9:
This is the point where Yoshino realises that sex sells. I mean soumen is stringy, so its a really bad substitute for semen, but ill take what I can get.

I remember Slavoj Zizek once cracking this joke about what would happen if you stuck the idea of pornography-as-vicarious-sex to how automated pleasure is these days. Basically the joke was that at some point we can conceivably just stick a dildo in a fleshlight and be satisfied with a job well done even though nobody is having sex. Tbh the real joke was that The Guardian puts up with Zizek's hilarious bullshit.

I bring this up because  if you think along the lines of this joke then the analogue of the soumen machine is basically, well, automated cumshot, which is just a local version of animated bukkake (there are 4 'tentacles'). Once you put it that way you realize that they really didnt need to sexualize that any further because all you really needed was the idea.
I mean its Yoshino in a swimsuit. Thats all any of us need.
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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2017, 05:03:38 AM »
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...bro's a Scandinavian?

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Re: Sakura Quest
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2017, 05:49:45 AM »

8-9:
This is the point where Yoshino realises that sex sells. I mean soumen is stringy, so its a really bad substitute for semen, but ill take what I can get.


They have to do something. Like there is no beach episode. And there is no hot spring episode. Both will need the girls to travel out of town.

10:

...bro's a Scandinavian?

So all bonds are Scandi? All black hair with curly locks are Italian? All redheads are Scottish? I think it's just revers raciest.

Goth girl got the most mysterious past. And may be the saddest story.
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