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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #120 on: December 02, 2017, 11:03:27 PM »
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Nikaidou would, normally, be a character that few people would find a lot of sympathy towards.  This is because he's the silver spoon fed rich kid who seems to have his head up his ass over competitions and whatnot.  Usually these characters are treated as simply "out of touch", spoiled, obnoxious twats.  As the series has gone by, we know that his interest in shogi is serious, his friendship with Kiriyama is important to him, and he's just a human being like the rest of us, with a lot more illness.  Like Kiriyama, we have grown to like him, and realize that those normal character archetype prejudices are invalid.  As I sit here watching this, I realize that I would actually be really bummed if Nikaidou died.  He doesn't deserve to die young.  He's living his life as fully as he can, and it is reflected in everything he does.  Sure, I suppose we could still invoke privilege resentment against him for being so rich that they can handle his illness a little more than the average joe, but it doesn't change the fact that he doesn't deserve to be where he is.  Like I said, we're all human beings.

I want to give Akari a big hug right now.  The poor woman doesn't know what to do.  She's normally the level headed, proactive one; the proverbial "big sister" type.  But when she's stressed, pushed into an avenue she has little experience with, she starts going to pieces.  That's normal.  Nobody is a rock, no matter how much they think they are.  That they mentioned their dad in this episode is interesting.  I know that family situations can get complicated, but like all of how Chica Umino tells stories, we initially start off thinking this father is a jackass, abandoning his three daughters for the sake of his "new" family.  But, anybody experienced with Umino will know that things aren't that simple.  We love and care about the sisters, much like with Hina's situation, so we get passionate about them.  I wonder what the truth is, though.  Did the girls push him away?  Has Akari never forgiven him for their mother's demise?  I wonder what story is here, hidden under the melancholy of Akari's comments.
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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #121 on: December 03, 2017, 08:57:29 AM »
30: This show is about to make me all kinds of upset in the future isn't it?

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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #122 on: December 04, 2017, 06:45:30 AM »
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Those were quite intense episodes.

Hina's homeroom teacher is a sad but familiar territory of how people learn to turn a blind eye towards a problem, and lie to themselves into actually believing that they aren't the problem. But at the same time, even if it's not a pleasant outcome, it should happen. We know that the homeroom teacher is contributing to the problem of bullying already, so she has to be called out sooner or later. The first step to solving a problem is to acknowledge it, anyways.

And it's amazing to see the parallels between Kiriyama and Nikadou in terms of their dependency towards shogi. Their respective circumstances are similar yet different: Kiriyama sees shogi as a form of escapism, whilst Nikadou sees it as a form of hope. And yet, you can take these two descriptions, switch it around and it's not entirely wrong either. The only difference is Kiriyama and Nikadou's respective humble and rich background; for both of them, shogi is essentially the only thing they have.

And yeah, I'm not sure which is more tragic: the story of Akari's father, or her reaction towards it.

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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #123 on: December 04, 2017, 02:52:09 PM »
Has anybody considered the teacher might be a victim of bullying herself?  Maybe from the parents of the bully kids?
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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #124 on: December 04, 2017, 05:41:54 PM »
I already suspected so. It's becoming too common in RL: teachers being coerced by students' parents. That's what I suspect is the reason she is turning a blind eye on this matter in the first place.

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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #125 on: December 04, 2017, 08:02:46 PM »
I mean, she could just be timid about wanting to deal with problems like this, and her own history might have something to do with it, but either way I don't think her story is just about indifference, denial, and cowardice.
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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #126 on: December 04, 2017, 10:37:28 PM »
I guess we will find out about her reasons soon enough, and maybe for her it's not about indifference/denial/cowardice. But then again, when it comes to bullying, it's hard to discuss it without raising the issues above.

A side point though, but the show is showing habits of mistiming comedic relief as of late. The show is tackling a heavy topic such as bullying, but it's trying too hard to loosen up when it doesn't have to.

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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #127 on: December 07, 2017, 02:52:21 PM »
It's funny because Honey and Clover never really mistimed its comic relief moments. Dunno what's going on here, but I agree its a bit too much. I blame the editor.

It's possible with the teacher she's been bullied. But I imagine its possible that she just suspects the problem will eventually go away if she ignores it. Not like the students won't be graduating at some point.

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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #128 on: December 10, 2017, 06:15:33 AM »
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As much as Kiriyama hates it, there's nothing wrong with Yamazaki's method of deliberately wearing Nikaidou out during his previous match. Technically, there's no right or wrong way of fighting; if you win legitimately in the end, then you did the right thing. Yamazaki only did the logical thing especially if he knew Nikaidou's condition in the first place. It's an a-hole thing to do, but nothing wrong with the approach. Nikaidou doesn't like to be seen lightly either anyway; it's just Kiriyama being defensive about his friend.

But I have to give it to Kiriyama: his understanding of people's feelings is what made him able to pinpoint Hina's cause of stomach pains (which is the same as Shimada's, which is basically anxiety), and even find her in a big city like Kyoto.

And yes, I love it when this show keeps the comedy to a minimal (almost nonexistent in this episode, actually). If you want some comedic relief, please time it well. Ancient Magus' Bride is a good example of how to do it right, by the way.

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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #129 on: December 10, 2017, 01:59:55 PM »
31: Just great. Should've guessed that Nikaidou would've been watching in the hospital but the scene was still a really cute surprise for me.

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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #130 on: December 16, 2017, 05:01:16 PM »
32: Spending just that extra bit of time to humanize the opponents does wonders for these sports anime. Second bit might've been a bit too goofy in comparison, but it was sweet all the same. Not sure how the bullying situation will be handled from here though, but perhaps the problem is already mostly resolved.

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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #131 on: December 16, 2017, 10:29:36 PM »
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I didn't expect the story to go back and tell Yamazaki's story, especially after his loss to Kiriyama. I thought he's supposed to be just another stock shogi opponent; if he's indeed meant to be one, his character development is one of the best I've seen in a long time.

I knew that he isn't a bad person or anything, even if he deliberately wore out Nikaidou to win his match (apparently out of desperation, I guess). And to my surprise, I can really empathize with this guy: introverted, with a dislike for  small talk. Especially when it's boorish comments that shrugs off everything he's been working for. I personally make an effort to avoid such gatherings; such comments and gatherings are sickening too sometimes. I feel you, Yamazaki; nothing against you, whatsoever.

And as much as I find Kiriyama making Hina feel better, the big problem still persists: she is still being bullied. Like that medication, this moment of healing is fleeting so I wonder how this problem will be tackled. One way is basically to bite the bullet until the rest of the school year, although that's not necessarily wise.

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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #132 on: December 23, 2017, 06:50:38 PM »
33: Breather Episode. Funny and amusing, lots of good moments. But I do feel like this show is having a problem with focus and just too many things going on.

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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #133 on: January 07, 2018, 03:12:41 AM »
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Yes yes, there are lots of new shows out, but if you think I'm going to stop watching this gem you're ****ing nuts, yo.

Speaking of nuts, the animators went goddamn crazy in this episode.  I can't put it all down in writing the various techniques they were using to animate scenes, some of which came off as almost comical rather than effective, but they sure were doing their damndest on a serious conflict episode.  As I thought, the teacher herself is not only a victim of bullying, but also a victim of ineptitude.  I suppose you can't be a victim there, but she felt as though she couldn't do anything about it.  Maybe that isn't necessarily her own faults so much as the system itself.  As Ms. Takagi demonstrated later, confronting parents about these situations is damned difficult.  Of course, watching Ms. Takagi in action, it is obvious that the apple doesn't fall too far from that tree.  I'm not saying Ms. Takagi goes out and bullies people, but she is aggressive, provocative, and ambitious, which often times results in a form of bullying to get what you want.  Beyond that, she's an enabler, like many parents, not wanting to believe their child is doing anything wrong, because that would reflect back on them and then they'd have to deal with their own kid, and boy would that just suuuuuck.  None of us want to think our kids are bad, because we don't want to think badly of them, and because we don't like admitting that maybe we weren't the best of parents.  I imagine that the young Takagi feels something missing at home and acts out on it, as children do.  Neglect, abuse, who knows.  I'm sure we'll get an explanation in the next couple of episodes.  People rarely bully just for the hell of it.  Usually there is a purpose behind it.  A need to feel superior; a way to make one's own shitty situation seem less shitty; etc.  Regardless, she makes the choice to do what she does, so sympathy will only go so far with me.

In any event, a powerful episode.  Poor Akari has been overwhelmed her entire young adult life.  She's had to raise her siblings as a mother, work to support her family both in the family sweets shop, and then later in a less than reputable establishment.  She is burdened by a promise she made to her mother years ago on her deathbed, though she will never admit it.  She is not her mother, no matter how hard she tries.  She is not an adult, who has experienced things and could make a case against Ms. Takagi's counters.  She also doesn't feel as though she is on the same level as Ms. Takagi socially, so she can't get upset about anything beyond what she was able to muster.  Hina, on the other hand, is the pillar now.  She has surpassed her sister as someone who is capable of standing up for what she believes in.  Akari is a strong person in some ways, weak in others, and Hina has become strong in the ways her older sister is weak to support her.  I think this is how families usually operate.  It may come to be that Hina will resent her sister for her weaknesses, because that also is how families usually operate, but she'll still protect her as much as she can from outside attacks.  As for Kana, well, we'll see.  She'll have two big sisters ready to pounce if needed.

Overall a really good episode, and it didn't feature Kiriyama at all.
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Re: March comes in like a lion
« Reply #134 on: January 07, 2018, 05:48:49 AM »
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What a turn of events.

As much as I love how this episode is handling the plot, I have to admit: the teacher's outburst and fallout from the plot is a deus ex machina. This bullying episode was in a deadlock and seemed to have no solution whatsoever. So in a way, her falling out seems too convenient to happen right now, of all times. She could've been forgetful lately because another bullying episode has come her way - that's possible for sure - but when the teacher is a key figure in solving such issues, it's tempting for me not to insinuate that the teacher was deliberately taken out of the story (although I must also admit, that teachers have it really hard to be involved in difficult problems not related to just teaching).

Between Takagi and her mother, the reason behind her bullying will be revealed later but I feel they are the usual suspects: cry for attention, emulation of her mother, a form of reactance to her lack of power back home, etc.

Either way, one thing's for sure, this episode is amazing. Much props to the show for handling this issue very well.
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