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Offline Major Tom

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New Game!
« on: July 05, 2016, 01:23:05 AM »
There are going to be a lot of comparisons to Shirobako with this one, as the premise is similar........but at first glance Shirobako is probably going to be the superior series.

Ep.1
We are introduced to Suzukaze and her team.  Right from the outset this feels a lot more.....moe.  Suzukaze's work mates are all cute girls, all under 25.  I have issues with Suzukaze at this point in time as well, she's hired fresh out of high school, fine, but apparently knows nothing about animation and put straight onto a design team?  Unless this is a trainee position, but that isn't mentioned, nor exactly what her role in the company outside of 'character designer' is.  Maybe that will get explained later on (like what her experience is), but in Shirobako (if I remember correctly), all our mains were either on the bottom rung of their careers or still learning, Suzukaze, at first glance, seems to have gotten quite the boost right off the bat.  Then again, I don't work in the game industry, so maybe this is how things work?

The first episode is giving me a definite vibe of a variation on the 'cute girls doing X' type show, rather than a show about making video games.
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Re: New Game!
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2016, 07:35:55 AM »
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We get a brief glimpse into the game development process, and then it's off to Suzukaze's first adult drinking party!  Still finding it difficult to accept that a fresh hire who's still training would be given the task to populate an entire village from scratch.  Maybe if she was given a set of standard templates to costume up, maybe, but building the models as well seems a bit much for her, given we know nothing about her experience.

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Re: New Game!
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2016, 01:33:28 PM »
1-3:

I dont know if the "cute girls doing cute things" premise can extend to the workplace.

Disregarding reality, this show is a lot of fun. Pretty much just a sports anime. In a more meta sense, I've realized a great many anime, once liberally perceived, can be considered/thought of as sports anime.
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Re: New Game!
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2016, 03:21:57 AM »
These past 2 episodes have been much better, spending more time on the work they do and stuff related to work.  Still not up to the level of Shirobako, but an improvement none the less.

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Re: New Game!
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2016, 10:41:32 AM »
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Cute girls doing cute things doesn't work for me...with 25 year olds whom hold managerial positions. For one, I'm 25 and if such a girl were to interact with me I'd be nothing but irritated. As a second, the fact that these two women hold positions of influence/authority just calls into question the structure of the company as a whole.

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a/b) This plotline was cute. Not only are the prinicple characters only 18-21, so such retardation is permissible, but they are interacting in a kinda out of work scenario so Im not cursing their lack of work ethic.
c) Do some f**king work.

Ultimately, I just cant reconcile the "cute girls doing cute things" premise within a serious workplace. It has been previously set within a workplace environment but only on a "Part-time" basis. Here, these characters are full-time employees beholden to a fairly serious deadline and yet they always seem to be on break or have time to spare. This isnt to say the show is bad, or that I dont find it enjoyable, just that I would prefer less focus on the older characters. I can reconcile the notion of 18-21, first-and-second year employees, futzing about, but when you incorporate 25years olda whom should have long grasp their sense of duty and grown out of such behaviours you lose me. And why are the employees women? Such a stupid "criticism" and yet needs asking. All I need is a simple "We're an exclusively female Game Developing company" and Ill be at ease. Even just a "and here's our 'X' department where all the men work". Until some acknowledgement, such nonsense shall forever remain in my mind.

As a cute aside:
the first "Fairies" game was released a decade ago, in-universe, and that was a apparently a PS3 title. When I initially saw the photo I was ready to facetiously demonize the show for a lack of continuity....then I ascertained the ever looming presence of time. But then why the hell did Aoba have a PS3 circa 06 whilst a primary school student? She play the computer port?
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Re: New Game!
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2016, 11:09:29 PM »
And why are the employees women? Such a stupid "criticism" and yet needs asking. All I need is a simple "We're an exclusively female Game Developing company" and Ill be at ease. Even just a "and here's our 'X' department where all the men work". Until some acknowledgement, such nonsense shall forever remain in my mind.

The company named Clamp started as  all female manga artist. They were famous for X and Cardcaptor Sakura.
As a cute aside:
the first "Fairies" game was released a decade ago, in-universe, and that was a apparently a PS3 title. When I initially saw the photo I was ready to facetiously demonize the show for a lack of continuity....then I ascertained the ever looming presence of time. But then why the hell did Aoba have a PS3 circa 06 whilst a primary school student? She play the computer port?

Is actually PZ3. Who knows what are they playing now. I guess they must use something the younger otakus can identify. I think people would be lost if game machine like Amiga, Atari, Sinclair or even the Sega Saturn are mentioned.

If PZ3 is a reference to PS3, then it would be an oversight by the animators.

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Re: New Game!
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2016, 10:24:11 AM »
Im well aware of Clamp, but that doesnt dispel my criticism. As stated, it is nothing more than a vaguely lingering concern but they havent established the company as solely female. And arguably they dont have to  nor should they. 

And my point regarding the PS3 was that "holy shit the PS3 came out 10 ears ago. I feel old." But also that is still consistent with established narrative lore and "Why would a family purchase as PS3 for an only child whom is a primary school student?"

Neither of these were meant to be biting criticisms or failings on the part of the show but simply observations.

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Re: New Game!
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2016, 04:19:13 PM »
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Im well aware of Clamp, but that doesnt dispel my criticism. As stated, it is nothing more than a vaguely lingering concern but they havent established the company as solely female. And arguably they dont have to  nor should they.

I think the last point is the only one worth having.  Is it really important that this is an all female company?  Heretofore we have only seen female employees, and even past employees referenced have been female.  There's nothing indicating there are no men here, and there's nothing indicating there are men here.  In a way, this is the perfect way to go about it, because those who WANT it to be an all girls' band for some progressive bit of mental masturbation can have it, while the people who don't give a **** can just point out that the representation of all females to a, show admitted, small section of a much larger group of people involved with the creation of a game indicates nothing.

In a way, doing it this way creates more interest, as it gives the audience an opportunity to accept whatever possibility fits their own respective head-canon.
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Re: New Game!
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2016, 01:59:28 AM »
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Banana caramel popcorn sounds revolting.
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Re: New Game!
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2016, 02:41:11 AM »
1-5:

I heard some good things so I came to check it out.

Well, it ain't no Shirobako. I'm largely alone in this, but having grown up using junk computers unable to run games on anything but minimum settings, I don't give a damn what the game looks like as long as the mechanics are interesting. This isn't a show about video game creating so much as art creation, and therefore I quickly found myself wondering why I wasn't just watching Kono Bijutsubu instead. 
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Re: New Game!
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2016, 09:47:17 AM »
Just caught up with this show. Read through the thread and thought it might be good to share some insight after having been in Japan for a bit.

Japanese companies, especially small sized production ones relating to anime and games, often explicitly ignore whether an applicant has a university degree or not. Many tend to go through art college or specialist schools anyway but it's barely unheard of for high school graduates to land a job if they have a decent portfolio and interview.

Grooming new employees is very much part of Japanese work culture. Anime and game companies tend not to have a full on trainee position, but assign such tasks to new employees as a way of giving them experience. Achievement in higher education doesn't matter nearly as much as how apt the employee is at integrating him or herself with the company workflow. New Game reflects this pretty well with Aoba and Kou's work dynamic for the first few episodes.

1-6:

The show is workplace SoL w/diabetes. Closer to Lucky Star than Shirobako, the emphasis being on showing off the cute characters than creating drama. Also as usual, Doga Kobo manages to make the moeshit show look ridiculously pretty when other studios would settle for still frames.

The problems the company face do create a prominent tension in the background, although they never seem to become plot points. Maybe this will change in the next few episodes.

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Re: New Game!
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2016, 02:08:04 PM »
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Totally on Umiko's side when it comes to training new hires.  Jesus Tapdancing Christ, nothing bothers me more than someone not being taught what they're supposed to do.  If you don't learn the new hires back when they're fresh and eager, it becomes so much damn harder to get them to do things the right way when they're "set" in their routines.

If you ever become a manager, or trainer, at your workplace, and you don't train your people properly, I will come down to your business and give you a barium enema.

Also, side boobs.
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Re: New Game!
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2016, 07:07:07 AM »
I'm slowly catching up with everything.  Once I put away the idea that this is not going to be like Shirobako but SoL at work this became more enjoyable, and I appreciate the actual work bits more.  I kinda want one of those sleeping bags.

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Re: New Game!
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2016, 02:45:35 PM »
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Cute.

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Re: New Game!
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2016, 07:25:52 AM »
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Nice ending. And I mean the post credits ending. Much better than Tales of .... post credits ending.

Final thoughts
A decent office slice of life. It's not really about making game, but the office in a company that makes games. Enough weirdos to make it interesting. No over reaching plot. No emotional meltdown. No tear jerking love. And no guys. Nice moe. Unlike the over saturation moes in The Art Club. But something forgettable. Nice series to relax. And no emotional attachment to the characters.
6.5 for me.

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Re: New Game!
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2016, 02:51:28 AM »
Final:

****ing post credits scene...

Thoughts:  I am now positive that when it comes to animation studios, there is Dogakobo and then there is everybody else.  Well, at least when it comes to the slice of life moe and comedy stuff, I mean, 11Eyes was just terrible, and that Devil and Realist thing...

Anyhow, when they want to do the light and fluffy thing, it is something I simply can't put away.  Ever since Yuru Yuri, they've captured my attention whenever they do something like this, and while I will never say that all of them are good like Love Lab is, they're at least not boring.  Entertainment is important, even if the technical stuff isn't as solid.

I think New Game's biggest flaw is how much they teased some workplace drama and then never bothered.  That teasing, though, left me wanting, because it seems they can do it.  Like Kyoto Animation playing with random dramatic moments in Lucky Star, it felt so out of place that you wanted to see what else they could do.  I'm hoping they do something more dramatic in the future, just not as melodramatic and hackneyed as Plastic Memories.

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Re: New Game!
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2016, 06:16:57 AM »
When all is said and done, that was actually quite good, once I got over it not being Shirobako (which I've probably said too many times now).  It was entertaining  throughout, solid though not mind blowing.  A good example of moe SoL.  I think its worth a solid 7/10.

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Re: New Game!
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2017, 08:23:55 PM »
Season 2-1:

I'm not sure if there was a fervent clamor for more New Game, but here we is.  The first episode actually aired a while ago as a teaser, but we didn't get it on C-Roll until now, so now we can talk about it.

I'm not sure what there is to talk about, though.  Despite Yagami's penchant for staying the night at the business and not wearing pants, I never got the vibe that this was a heavy fanservice show.  There were moments, and as the series progressed, it became obvious that the director had a penchant for wanting to do Shinbo-esque moments of ecchi-sakuga (especially with Hifumi, and who could blame him?).  At the end of the day, though, it was light and fluffy cute girls doing came coding in a rather not stressful work environment with a pack of eccentric weirdos.  Also, Aoba's cute exterior belies a mischievous little devil inside that can be quite endearing.  And erotic.

Anyway, so we start this one off reminding us what the director likes:  Shinbo-esque moments of ecchi-sakuga with Yagami giving us every angle possible to show off her gender confusing red manties (look it up).  It wasn't even subtle either, and I appreciate that kind of bravado.  Don't pussy foot around what you want to do, just ****ing do it.  However, next time choose something more feminine because now I am sexually confused.

The rest of the episode probably should have been the segment where they were interviewing each worker on their thoughts on the previous project and their plans for the future, climaxing at the lead in to this season's plot, which is Aoba becoming a character designer.  There were a few other fluff scenes reminding us how much these girls are lunatics, and apparently a new thing where director Shizuku takes a rather personal interest in Hifumi's cuteness (who could blame her?) and we end up getting the ultimate question of why there are no men around answered (it literally is done purposely).  I can accept that.
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Re: New Game!
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2017, 02:31:50 AM »
Not too much to say about it yet, but it looks like we are starting off straight after the end of the first season. I found it interesting that Aoba didn't get what Hazuki meant when she said 'be a bit more greedy'. Though I suspect this show will be a bit too nice for that, I do hope we get Aoba and Yagami is direct competition for the top spot. Maybe with Aoba learning that if you want to chase your dreams, you're going to have to be a little bit ruthless.

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Re: New Game!
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2017, 01:37:57 AM »
2-4:

Mostly been fluff so far, with the conflict between Yagami and Aoba being resolved way too quickly.  It should have pressed through the season, where they get competitive and the resentment built slowly, even if it was only from Yagami's end.  But, this is a light and fluffy cute girls doing cute things show, so, we're not going to get that rabble.  But, this episode really showed they should have progressed that story along the way and add another wrinkle with Hifumi being tasked with eventually replacing Yagami as the AD.  It would allow Aoba to grow out from under Yagami's shadow and Hifumi growing as a person and changing as a character into a more responsible leader.  I suppose this would make Yagami look pretty bad overall, but I think this would have been good for her as well, where she would realize that she was meant for bigger and better things, which would continue the circle of life of any business where the experienced advance to new levels and the newbies replace that old guard and new hires come in next.

But, whatever, just watch some titties bounce and imagine Aoba in slutty outfits again.
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Re: New Game!
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2017, 09:21:46 PM »
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Devilish Aoba is best Aoba.
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Re: New Game!
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2017, 01:19:17 AM »
2-4:

Mostly been fluff so far, with the conflict between Yagami and Aoba being resolved way too quickly.  It should have pressed through the season, where they get competitive and the resentment built slowly, even if it was only from Yagami's end.  But, this is a light and fluffy cute girls doing cute things show, so, we're not going to get that rabble.  But, this episode really showed they should have progressed that story along the way and add another wrinkle with Hifumi being tasked with eventually replacing Yagami as the AD.  It would allow Aoba to grow out from under Yagami's shadow and Hifumi growing as a person and changing as a character into a more responsible leader.

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More of the above. Too lazy to retype.

It also high light the attitude between the business end and the developing end. The developing end may not understand the thought process in marketing. When Aoba was not appointed as the the key illustrator, it's business. It's nothing personal. But it will effect the stuff moral. So even though Aoba work could not and will not be accepted, the competition was in a way it's a learning curve for Aoba and a way to restore staff moral.

I can't help to feel that the artistic group is divided into Aoba and Yagami  as a click. With Hifumi, Yun and Shinoda Hajime as another click.
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