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Tari Tari
« on: July 01, 2012, 08:40:02 PM »
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Hey there, Hanasaku-esque character designs and “Reflectia” from True Tears coming from the choir. Nice of you to remind us who's steering this ship.

While the episode itself was for the most part inoffensive and implied plenty of room for development, I can't help but get the feeling that P.A. Works is resting on laurels here. There really wasn't much in that episode that stood out, especially not in comparison with the moments that made me go "Where have I seen this before?" Miyamoto's got a very familiar sense of spontaneity, and there are hints of more implicit conflicts in place, but the show really dropped the ball when it came to just having some sort of hook.

Still, it’s got time to prove itself. I’m not exactly bringing any new opinions to the table when I say that P.A. Works, even with the decent shows on their resume, hasn’t exactly made a series that can be called great. I doubt this show is going to be it, but Hanasaku Iroha was the closest they’ve ever gotten in my book, and the resemblances are definitely there. I’m not overly invested in seeing where this is going to go, but it’s up to the show to decide whether it’s going to go for the big hit or play it safe.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2012, 04:05:33 AM »
1: Of everything I've watched new in the past few days, I actually liked this the best.  Yeah, there doesn't seem a whole lot "new" here, but no one seemed like a walking trope, which is always a huge plus for an ep 1.  We'll see, it could devolve into "PA Works does K-On!", but I doubt it. 

Oh, and I'm calling that Sakai's mother died in a car accident that also knocked her out of school for 1 term.  (It explains the sullen home life, slight-fill in for a wife and the extra classes + stopping singing)

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2012, 04:12:19 AM »
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I saw the opening and thought to myself "This could range from very good to distinctly average".

What I like for one thing is that they are having a mixed gender friendship group, I just don't see much, and I really hope they can do something with that. The characters were all left an impression of indifference and "I've seen this before", but I think it could be good, in fact, I'm just hoping it will be good. I really want this to be a great anime, I just hope I don't have to give up on that.

Thanks to last season, I keep thinking of Sakaki from Natsuiro Kiseki whenever Sakai speaks, I keep imaging the yellow hair and everything.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2012, 05:31:53 AM »
I think I might be coming into this rather green.  I don't recall watching anything by PA works before, so I might not have the same things to compare to.  But I thought it was a decent enough opener, left me at least interested in seeing more.

Oh, and I'm calling that Sakai's mother died in a car accident that also knocked her out of school for 1 term.  (It explains the sullen home life, slight-fill in for a wife and the extra classes + stopping singing)

I didn't jump to the actual cause of death, but I came to pretty much the same conclusion.  Though the opening scene did telegraph that fact with big neon lights.  'she's going to die/is dead' was written all over it.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2012, 06:17:30 AM »
PA Works doesn't do a lot independently, but here's the list of their works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PA_Works

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2012, 08:02:34 AM »
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The 3 girls / 2 guys setup vaguely reminded me of Haruhi, although there's really no similarity between the two shows beyond that. The first episode hasn't exactly brought anything new nor completely hooked me in, but there are enough potentially interesting material scattered throughout to keep me intrigued. There's still a good chance to improve itself in the upcoming episodes like Hyouka, so I'll keep watching this for now.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2012, 08:26:01 AM »
PA Works doesn't do a lot independently, but here's the list of their works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PA_Works
The only title of theirs that they have actually produced that I have seen is Angel Beats.  I liked Angel Beats, it wasn't exceptional, but I did enjoy it.  That's all I can really say.
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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 11:31:32 AM »
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PA works is prone to making good starts before they finally forget what writing a story is and then it implodes on itself. So nice first episode, although it started off slow. It got better with the little bits of drama they introduced...

However, the backgrounds and character designs really do feel like HSI rejects. I hope this anime isn't just a reject of HSI, which was kind of a reject of TT's. A reject of a reject cannot be a good thing right?

The key to this show will be about consistency and finishing strong, something all PA works shows to date have massive issues with due to terrible writing and directing.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2012, 06:34:00 PM »
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Only thing I like so far is that they made sure that they introduced each of the five main characters, and made sure that the audience knew that they would all have their own stories, paths, and importance.  For now, they're focusing on only one character to get the ball rolling, but nothing about her screams "central character".  I might enjoy having no main cast figure to revolve around.  As much as I liked Hanasaku Iroha, the story was pretty much only interesting when it stayed on Ohana, and the rest of the cast felt like a mix of clumsy and forced.  I don't get that vibe here.

Unfortunately, without a focus, it's going to be up to the audience to want to stick with it.  So far I'm in, but that wont last if they don't move things forward at a good enough pace.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2012, 08:21:06 PM »
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Well, pacing won't be much of an issue.  I liked this episode, but what is the series going to be about?

I don't normally expect that much of a curveball with story setup.  I was assuming the recital would happen at the end of the series, not ep 2.  So, will this just be a "slice of drama" series?  I'm both looking forward to what is ahead, but I'm also really confused what that direction might be at this moment.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2012, 10:13:22 PM »
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I got Paris Chapter syndrome from watching that episode.

To start off with what the episode did well: while the show has done everything short of just coming out with Sakai’s backstory, it’s now more about how it’s affected not just her, but the people around her as well. The notion of how influential of a role she played around the music department is becoming more evident, as are the expectations placed on the secondary choir club as a result. It helps that Sakai’s initially standoffish attitude is toned back now that she appears to realize where Konatsu’s coming from, and with all of the people affected by her falling out with music she’s easily got the most extensive sub-plot going so far.

But the moment the episode fast-forwarded to the day of the recital, it just didn’t seem like things were adding up. It got ahead of itself by suddenly getting into the club's supervisor crisis while not quite establishing that it was the day of the recital. Konatsu’s stage fright, which is a huge indirect catalyst for why her choir club even exists, didn't seem so much as an issue she overcame as one that the show just had her get over quickly for the sake of ending the episode on a statement. So much was going on all of a sudden, and although part of it can be attributed to crisis mode, the sudden shift in pacing left me as surprised as the pregnant teacher was when Konatsu had her sudden outburst in the car.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2012, 11:47:25 PM »
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Oh... didn't know that Hanasaku Iroha's sequel is out so soon already.

Here's what I feel about the show: it's very watchable. For now, it's more watchable the other slice-of-life series this season Kokoro Connect. Although it really feels like Hanasaku Iroha because of PA Works' visual touch, it seems more light-hearted, less sentimental and doesn't have as much emotional appeal as the former. In fact, it feels a little plain at times.

As for Konatsu, although I understand how the story is telling the classic "doing what you want versus doing what others want you to", my inner cynic wonders if Konatsu is only making a new choir club just to get back at the vice-principal. If that's the case, then she's obviously not doing the other club members any favors.

I'll stick around a little longer. Honestly, I'm not hoping a lot from this series.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2012, 06:26:36 PM »
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Well, pacing won't be much of an issue.
We must have been watching different episodes then - the pacing was way too fast.

Low expectations for this show - in contrast to AC I found Kokoro Connect more watchable.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2012, 06:57:38 PM »
I was responding to TIF about dragging out the choir bit.  That, obviously, wasn't paced slowly, haha.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2012, 09:43:49 PM »
So....what now?  I had assumed that the new choir club would be a vehicle for Sakai to work through her grief and other issues surrounding her mother's death.  She also picked up that song really quickly, for something that has a very clear connection to her mother.  Speaking for myself, I don't think I could just sit down and play something like that, not without some tears or something.

I would have thought the recital was going to be at least a mid season thing.....it's like it climaxed too early.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2012, 02:01:15 AM »
I was responding to TIF about dragging out the choir bit.  That, obviously, wasn't paced slowly, haha.

Yeah, apparently I was wrong.  They did indeed pick up the pace... too ****ing much.  Then again, if the whole bit about choirs isn't supposed to be the point of the show, then I'm okay with that.  If this is just one step on a whole list of events that is going to go down, then great, let's keep on chuggin'.

But I would appreciate it if they'd make the rapid pacing a bit less obvious.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2012, 03:08:23 PM »
The major problem is that we're 2 episodes in and I really don't have a feel for the series.  I like it, but what is the series about?  Is it about the daily lives of 5 high schoolers?  Is it about something else?  The first arc really just felt like a complete story (and not a bad one), but this isn't a 2 ep OVA series. 

I guess the battle with the Vice Principal will be a big part of the story.  Which could work, but I just don't have a feel for what the main story or sense of the series is.  So, I'm just confused at the moment but I enjoyed eps 1 & 2.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2012, 08:01:55 PM »
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I know how the Japanese are not particularly known to speak good English, but... really, this? I feel for her, though; having some Italian guy with a bowtie and a piglet running up to her like that would freak the shit out of any girl.

The credits showed her being singled out from the singing crowd. Obvious hint of a hidden agenda waiting to be explored?

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2012, 09:15:28 PM »
He was Italian? Strange, I could have sworn the language he spoke was Spanish; guess I missed the mark on that one. In any case, it makes me wonder what kind of people Sakai's mom knew when she was around.

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Five minutes into the episode and Konatsu's choir was almost back at square one, and I'm not sure what to think about that. As much as I saw that as the show catching itself after moving way too quickly in the last episode, the pacing still strikes me as too fast too often and part of me can't let go of the fact that the show seemed to press the reset button on itself. But thanks to some...er, bending the rules in badminton, the choir got enough members again and managed to get approved, so I guess that was just a minor roadblock?

And what's with the recurring bathtub scene between the two Miyamoto siblings?

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2012, 09:25:15 PM »
Heck, I don't even know Spanish or Italian. He just looks very Luigi to me. If I may, he just has something to do with Maeda "Weiner" Atsuhiro; that's my only clue.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2012, 11:06:40 PM »
I'm pretty sure that was Spanish.  The connection is most definitely her mother, he mentioned something about how her hair and eyes matched after he saw that little doodad hanging off her bag.  I think him singing was also a clue, especially after the Principal said Sakai's mum was one of his students.

I'm still not entirely happy about the recital happening so soon, but I'm relieved the show is giving itself goals to reach, rather than farting about.  Oh, and poor Miyamoto.  Mother always knows.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2012, 03:22:19 AM »

I found that hilarious, the way she put the accent on money just made it sound great, "I don't money".

He was Spanish, I know because I was surprised at how well I remembered the language myself.

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It's developing, but for now I still slightly prefer Kokoro Connect. Time will tell.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2012, 02:58:05 AM »
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That Spanish dude with the pig is now my hero.  I don't know why either.  That's what makes him so special.

Okay, I legit laughed twice.  First was when she told her little brother how she found his porn stash.  Second was when Wien tried to feed the squirrel only to have his food nabbed by a passing bird.  ****ing god damned rats with wings!
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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2012, 09:11:24 PM »
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So, wasn't a too crazy Spanish guy.  Though, as expected, he knew her mother.  Interesting back story and obviously the first full character arc we'll be getting.

And the Okita family's (Shiho & Sawa) ass-slapping tendencies are much approved here. :)

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2012, 05:38:56 AM »
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So the Mariachi with the piglet isn't a friend of Weiner's, but Wakana's late mother. My bad.

See, Sawa pointed out the problem I see in Konatsu: she has no sense of commitment. She seems to do things without any sense of directions (maybe the idea behind the title of the series itself?) and Sawa had to say something. Good thing she did.

But since episode 1, the thing I've been curious the most about is of course Wakana. Her mysterious background is what piques my interest... that, and why she's never with the group in the closing credits.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2012, 07:57:36 AM »
Dammit, I was going to make a funny joke about Weiner learning falsetto by linking to a Goodies clip about the Bee Gees and tight jeans, but you think I can find the clip?

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2012, 10:19:23 AM »
why she's never with the group in the closing credits.
Come on, they are obviously going to group her with them eventually when she joins the singing group proper. It's basically they're way of blatantly telling us where things stand currently.

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« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2012, 05:45:33 PM »
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I laughed hard when Wien put the tackle on the Spanish guy. That's one way to push a guy out of bounds.

So it turns out Sakai's mom had a huge part in the Condor Queens' success, which only further expands the kind of influence she had when she was around. Eventually the story will have to shift toward how Sakai herself comes to terms with her legacy and the fact that she's gone, but the show's done a good job in developing all of this in due time, and it's at least giving the show a bit of weight. Sakai's beginning to run away with the story a little, especially given how the other four members of the choir have yet to stand out.

And someone had to give Konatsu the heads-up that she can't just operate on her own agenda and that she's got to consider what the others have to think. I thought that person would initially be Sakai, but so far, against my expectations, it's been all Sawa (although I probably should have seen it coming with the rear-slap she gave Konatsu two episodes back).

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2012, 09:52:40 PM »
I think the implication is that Wakana's mother died 2 years ago, along with what causes her to need the extra classes.  Would also explain why she dropped out of the music program.  They're in their senior year, correct?  Would fit together, if I have the time lines right.

Konatsu's story is definitely going to be about finally becoming an adult.  She's still got a lot of growing up to do.

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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2012, 10:11:15 PM »
Oh, also, apparently their ability to research native Hawaiian ceremony clothing was a tad limited.  The guys looked like they came out of a Toga party.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2012, 01:01:32 AM »
You think they're bad?  I'm trying to figure out Spaniards wearing sarappes and sombreros.  Unless they're supposed to be Mexicans, which would make them the lightest skinned Mexicans in the universe.

Well, I don't know if they're actually Spaniards or not, but one of them was definitely playing a dulzaina, though the other two were playing bongos and what looks like a zither that I don't recognize.  So what do I know.

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« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2012, 02:15:52 AM »
I think the two older guys (the ones not chasing Wakana) were supposed to be native Japanese.  I think.  I'm not really sure, but they weren't attempting to talk with an accent.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2012, 06:01:54 AM »
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So that's what happened to Wakana. No wonder she's subtly adverse to music. Good episode.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2012, 07:01:22 AM »
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Wow, I didn't realize Wakana's feelings about her dead mother were so bitter, I was expecting the nice mother who got on with her daughter who sadly died and left a big scar, not how they had an awkward relationship with Wakana being cold towards her mother. I also think it was a good episode, it showed things well, though I do want to know why Wakana was so cold towards her mother, and why she was so abrasive around her. I feel like she's causing herself pain to prove a point, in fact watching Wakana is quite unpleasant at times because of how despondent she is.

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« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2012, 02:05:28 AM »
Bitter is not the word I would use.  She has a lot of regret over her relationship with her mother, especially in that her last words to her mum were to scold her but she doesn't appear to be angry about anything.  From what I can gather her mum had an attitude much like Sawa's, very carefree and looking to find the fun in things.  Whereas Wakana seemed to have a very serious attitude to music in middle school, much like the vice principal.  Fun wasn't the point.

I'm guessing that getting rid of the piano will be a turning point next episode.  From the looks of it Wakana has been dealing with this by trying to hide from what she's feeling, and in some ways deny it ever happened.  With the piano gone I think one of 2 things will happen; either it finally sinks in that her mum is gone, or she decides that getting rid of the piano was a big mistake (as in getting rid of part of her mum).

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2012, 06:22:13 AM »
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I thought that the episode was good, particularly the part regarding Wakana. Her mother's actions were flawed and I felt she made things unnecessarily hard for herself and Wakana however past that I think the emotions were displayed very well. It really put Tari Tari up in my books.

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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2012, 05:49:20 PM »
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Wakana's dad is so clutch.

The incidental advice Konatsu and Sawa gave Wakana slipped in pretty comfortably, and even in the case of the latter managed to sneak in a potential conflict prospect with Sawa's dad. And as for the whole sequence where Wakana gradually came around, I don't think I could have asked for much better; the show didn't overstate the drama or go too far out of line when Wakana finally broke down, and the resolution to it all felt natural. In fact, I'm almost upset that it's had to peak at such a time in the show since Wakana's backstory has been what's holding up the show for me so far. Now that it's been pretty much dealt with, what's next? I presume that it'll be Sawa's turn up to bat going by how the show has sort of broken off into character arcs, but I'm kind of left grasping at what to look forward to now.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2012, 12:37:09 AM »
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I think the one aspect I like the most about Tari Tari is the intermingled relationship webs.  Wakana just seems to know everybody, and has a variety of interactions depending.  She might be the only dynamic character we've got here.  Sawa can be somewhat dynamic, but mostly comes off as headstrong and spoiled.  The others are a mixed bag of "why are you here?".

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2012, 07:03:57 AM »
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I like Wakana. Not just because of her background story, but also because she's a troll. The bread-in-the-microwave is hilarious.

To be honest, Tari Tari didn't really impress me because it's emotionally unappealing. Like the title suggests, it just looks like a group of kids doing various things without any particular sense of purpose. It felt like there wasn't a story to tell. But Wakana's background is a step towards the right direction; among all the other characters in the show, she is by far the only character I can relate to. Still can't relate to the other four, to be honest; they'd better have a story to tell as well.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2012, 10:14:56 PM »
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And Sawa’s fast catching on to why prospective and active jockeys often find themselves facing eating disorders. I thought hearing from the people at the Derby about how tough they have it was bad enough on its own, but seeing Sawa basically starving herself trying to make the cut makes it look a lot tougher.

I was somewhat afraid at what direction Tari Tari was going to take after Wakana resolved her own issues, and this episode didn't do much in the way of putting those discomforts to rest. Whereas Wakana's backstory was reasonably well-integrated into the story and felt like it fit in comfortably as one of the running plots, Sawa's conflict seems a bit too cut-and-paste. Aside from a snippet in the previous ep with her dad being another one of this show's sticks in the mud, the transition into her sub-plot comes off as clunky with her forced diet and daddy issues, the former of which was something I would have liked to see be established a little more beforehand since it seemed like something she would have already been enduring. Not to mention all of it seemed to culminate pretty quickly at the end with her fall. The show was going to have a tough act to follow following the resolution of Wakana's struggles, but I'm still finding it hard to latch onto something regardless.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2012, 08:54:37 PM »
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So that's Sawa's story, eh. Meh, Wakana's story is a lot more interesting. That, and also the whole "getting a stable government job" story is just too clichéd even if it's a legit comtemporary issue.

And Atsuhiro, you dunce: you really believe that a school is keeping a rhino? And a white one at that?

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2012, 11:51:25 PM »
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Man, that was a hell of a quick turnaround by Sawa's dad. Just when Sawa seems resigned to the notion of moving on from her dream of being a jockey, suddenly Dad decides that he's going to do a 180 on his hard-nosed stance against Sawa going to a horse riding academy. Mom says that he can't help but worry about her? I figured if that would give reinforcement to why he's so against her pursuing a jockey career, not cause his entire position to crumble; if the idea trying to be communicated here is that Sawa's dad was moved by her going to such extreme lengths to try to pursue her dream, I certainly didn't get that idea while watching, and I still don't buy it now. It's just too sudden of a change.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2012, 06:18:45 AM »
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Meh, a "feel good" ending that otherwise was arrived to a tad too fast. A typical dad that was being realistic albeit harsh, but then turns into a supportive one and justified as being one who isn't good at expressing himself. Yeah right, aren't all dads like that.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2012, 08:03:46 PM »
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Well, Wien's finally registering a pulse as a character, so hopefully this is a sign that the issue Reckoner outlined in his segment in the Mid-Season Impressions article about the show not developing its male characters is finally being addressed. And it's good to see that Wakana isn't going to be completely cast aside in the midst of things, especially since her interactions with others seem much more perceptive than those of the others in the choir club (looking right at you, Konatsu). Although I wasn't really engaged in the whole deal with Konatsu trying to raise money for the club's musical play, at least the job that Sawa's mom offered them took down a few birds with one stone, getting Wakana and Wien back into the thick of things while keeping Konatsu occupied.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2012, 02:08:47 AM »
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If this is supposed to be Wien's arc, well then there's not enough happening here for me to care about the boy at all.  On the contrary, he still seems about as uninteresting as he was before.  Oh sure, he has a child friend back home who also likes superhero sentai shows, and apparently this is the only connection Wien feels he has to the kid, but what the hell is this supposed to say about Wien going forward?  I don't really understand what these two episodes were supposed to do for him other than reveal that he's an overly optimistic psychopath.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #45 on: September 09, 2012, 08:09:50 PM »
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That Sawa flip. Goddammit, Taichi.

The show's been hinting at some sort of drama surrounding the principal, but the last thing I expected was that it would involve the entire school having to close. The theme about the choir making their last year at the school count was fading into the background a bit before this, but I imagine it's about to get a lot more important now. I'm a little annoyed at how the show has managed to conceal the notion that the school has presumably been under a ton of pressure with the number of students going down, but I suppose I can let it slide given how things just tend to escalate quickly at times in the show.

And with the way that episode went out, it looks like Wakana's about to drive off with the story. Again.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #46 on: September 10, 2012, 03:24:37 AM »
What is even the point of Taichi?

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2012, 07:01:48 AM »
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I don't know who's the bigger troll: Wien for his sentai sing-off, or Konatsu for her unconventional description of T-1000.

I'm not sure how good the ending's going to be. If it wants to take the idealistic route, then I can tell that the whole developer problem would get resolved by some contrived sentimental solution. And yeah, I can see this show ending that way very clearly.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2012, 05:19:07 AM »
Final:

All right, well that was a decent final episode. Maybe considered to be the best of this season only because the others sucked...

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My thoughts on Tari Tari:

I thought that this show lacked focus. I got it that the story is more or less about students doing random stuff, but I was hoping that it would have some sort of objective or a goal for these students to go for. Heck, Konatsu's original reason for making her own club was kinda flimsy i.e. to get back at her teacher. But at the story progressed, I could kinda see how the Choir Club's motley members began to gel together in terms of their common goal and hence gained focus eventually. Some of the arcs are good, especially Wakana's, but I just don't feel for the rest.

I'd give this a 6. Wakana's arc was the only highlight for me, the rest being either too forgettable or mediocre. PA Works' visuals are still great although it's a visual ripoff of Hanasaku Iroha~

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2012, 09:49:44 AM »
I'm in total agreement with AC.

In addition, I felt the romance with Taichi and Sawa was half-assed, and they didn't really put much effort into it. This goes with the lack of focus that AC pointed out.

Would have given this a 5 but for the last episode, so it's 6 overall.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2012, 12:01:53 PM »
Heck, Konatsu's original reason for making her own club was kinda flimsy i.e. to get back at her teacher.

Wasn't it because the vice principal wouldn't let her sing and this was her last year of high school so she felt she was going to lose the stage to do it. The whole point of quitting the original choir club to form her own club was so she could find a stage to sing. Nothing flimsy about that to me I feel.

Generally I kind of saw Tari Tari as more of a coming of age story. The characters growing up and dealing with the trials set before them. My main criticisms of the story would be with how the guys were handled, Wien wasn't particularly interesting and Taichi got a "little" shafted. I never thought the plot was that elusive.

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2012, 07:04:40 PM »
At first, it did come off feeling that she just wanted to get back at the teacher because she wasn't good enough and that she wasn't serious enough either.  It kinda felt petty at first but as the story progressed, I began to realize that she genuinely thought that the vice-principal's club lacked the love for music. I remembered how half-hearted she was at wanting to sing when the Condor Queen's came to town, hence making me believe that she wasn't really into the singing...

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Re: Tari Tari
« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2012, 10:14:51 PM »
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Why did Tari Tari only get one cour when Hanasaku Iroha got 2? This is totally unfair.

Anyway, typical P.A.Works, starting strong and ending weak. The start of this show showcased a lot of promise, and eventually it lost focus and didn't know where it was going. When they finished their concert during episode 2 or 3, I felt that there was potential for this anime to be the best anime of this season. Well, so much for that. Aside from Wakana's arc, I also felt that most of the drama is pretty forgettable, and I certainly wasn't very moved by most of them. Even many parts of Wakana's arc I would just brush off as useless melodrama, and I really hate melodrama.

Reckoner is right in calling this show a "coming of age" series. It is centered on five members of a choir club, each with their own tribulations of 'growing up' as they strive to make the best out of their last year of high school, rectify some mistakes made in the past and accomplish their goals. The concept is good, but the plot is forgettable. Also, I think this show would have benefitted from giving the male characters some more character development. Maybe 2 cour would have fixed that. Who knows?

Overall, it's a 6/10. The ending was good and tied everything up well. In general I still somewhat liked watching this series, and it had such a strong start too.
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