Topic: Sakamichi no Apollon (Read 4874 times)

Reckoner · « **on:** April 12, 2012, 11:51:09 AM »

Well the return of Shinciro Watanabe is here, and what can I say?

Watanabe puts most other directors to shame and exemplifies just how much more talented than he is than the common dribble. Best premiere of the season for me,

All the little touches were great, the animation was superb (Look at the drum solo holy shit), I love the char designs. The BGM was awesome.

This is how you make anime.

Now if only he'd direct more...

Fumoffu!! · « **Reply #1 on:** April 12, 2012, 02:29:31 PM »

I admit I'm terrible when it comes to knowing the names behind the production, I dismissed this as something that would have Yaoi implications and a boring story. Wasn't until I read the post on the Anime Instrumentality that I realized that this was something I should be watching. I'm glad I did. I didn't realize how impressed I was with this until I realized I really wanted to see the second episode,

Perhaps this won't be a bad season after all.

DrIdiot · « **Reply #2 on:** April 12, 2012, 02:39:01 PM »

1:

The animation is great.

This is a bit different from Watanabe's previous works (actually, I guess he did do a short once that's like this in setting) in that it's not set in some far off place.

It's interesting that the two noitamina shows this season sort of start off with a similar premise.

Anyway, good start. The difference between the two couldn't be more obvious. I think they set up their backgrounds well -- classical music mostly a rather bourgeoisie thing.

@fumoffuu: I tend to find that the names are a better indicator of quality than anything else. A good director can take a mediocre premise and turn it into something great. A bad director will **** up even the best of plots.

Flash Sword Irene · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2012, 04:38:44 PM »

Episode 1

It is definitely not surprising that the man behind Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo would be all over this adaptation. Of course, with the great execution behind this debut you just can't go wrong with an anime playing off Watanabe's core strengths and elements behind his directing style. This is the second anime this season where I truly feel that the characters are genuine and work with a great chemistry between them. Obviously, the music is going to be excellent while playing a familiar reminder of Watanabe's style in that one fight scene. For the most part, I feel that this anime can be great so long as they keep up the consistency until the end.

So, this is another projected winner for me and it should be a fun ride.

Major Tom · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2012, 07:34:41 PM »

That.....was amazing.

I'm listening to Moanin' right now. If anything, this show will introduce some classic jazz to me. I hope the animation budget stays up, they got each note and stroke right. Though I'm hoping Sentaro will learn some appreciation for the classical world as well (dammit Auntie, why'd you have to interrupt Claire de Lune?) along side Kaoru opening up his world.

AC · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2012, 07:45:46 PM »

1:

I'll point something out about Apollon: the show is not outwardly amazing. It doesn't scream FABULOUS from the onset with the music, story or characters, unlike Cowboy Bebop which is amazing right from the start. Instead, it's slower and even the music doesn't grab your attention immediately. But you know what, if you can see through this, you'd know just how amazing this show actually is. This is the second show of Spring 2012 which has a lot of heart (the other being Uchuu Kyoudai), and the quirks and peculiarities of the characters make them very relatable.

It's a very familiar setting: a kid who befriends the most unlikely of people, forming a special bond through a common love for something, and in this case, jazz. If you think about it, it's just like BECK but it's more simplified and down-to-earth. In fact, if it becomes something like BECK, it's still a good thing; the only question now would be the execution, and it looks like the show has hit all the right notes.

noitaminA, you have a lot to prove for yourself especially when you're behind atrocious shows lately. Keep it up~♪

Sorrow-kun · « **Reply #6 on:** April 16, 2012, 03:15:07 AM »

Ep 1

Loved it. Believable characters, down-to-earth tone, no bullshit and a blatantly clear love for jazz. Goodbye shitty Noitamina. Welcome back, good Noitamina.

Flash Sword Irene · « **Reply #7 on:** April 19, 2012, 11:07:06 AM »

Episode 2

I love the way they detailed the idiosynchracies for the characters in this episode. (Especially Kaoru's point of view on things later on.) There were some interesting points, especially with Sentaro in particular. It is also amazing how much chemistry the main trio have at this point since it is still rather early. While I am not necessarily a fan of the whole love at first sight after x event cliche, it worked out well. I was able to believe in that segment due to the atmosphere and believability of the characters.

Watanabe is definitely on to something with this and I love it.

wendeego · « **Reply #8 on:** April 19, 2012, 03:42:38 PM »

The last episode had at least one moment (the drum solo) that was positively electric. This episode had at least two.

Honestly, I haven't seen the art of music portrayed this well in anime for ages. About the last show I've seen that might come anywhere close was probably BECK, and even that was a very different kind of music. I guess it's to be expected from Watanabe at this point, but watching the protagonist develop this ridiculous grin on his face when he finally understood jazz put a giant grin on my face, too.

There's the danger that this show will crap out on the jazz and start focusing solely on the romance, of course. But that scene in the water this episode was good enough that I don't think I even mind if they go that route. In short, this is pretty great stuff! Hopefully the creators of Kids on the Slope will continue this trend and have more awesome jam sessions. And maybe tear our hearts out in the process, if they're in the mood.

DrIdiot · « **Reply #9 on:** April 19, 2012, 03:59:12 PM »

Kaoru is the kind of guy that falls in love with any girl that pays attention to him. Here's to hoping none of them get together by the end of this -- this story is about something much, much better.

Anyway, great episode. They have everyone's character down to every last detail

SQA · « **Reply #10 on:** April 19, 2012, 10:17:41 PM »

2: Being a long time anime watcher, I'm quite prepared for face-smacking levels of misinterpretation of Christianity to pop up. But with the base work & the creative staff, I hope that doesn't happen.

Though the two of them being Catholic would explain the more familiar interaction with American music culture, and the wider American culture in general. Interesting wrinkle.

Even if our protagonist got blocked by Sentaro, he at least made a legitimate step to get to know Ritsuko. And that's episode 2. A brainy character with pride and a will-to-operate. I so wish more anime characters had that.

This really is lining up to be the best series of the season. I just hope it keeps it up.

TypicalIdiotFan · « **Reply #11 on:** April 20, 2012, 02:20:39 AM »

2:

As my brother put it, this show is such a "breath of fresh air". It follows particular some anime themes and such, but generally avoids trying to be tropish. There's always going to be a bit of it, like the absurd gang of thugs who always seem to have nothing to do but sexually harass women, but the rest of it doesn't feel too typical. Watanabe is someone I've grown to trust when it comes to creating a TV series that feels more like the aim is to appeal to a broader audience. Cowboy Bebop could have been (and was) shown everywhere on the planet and people would be able to get into it. Samurai Champloo less so, but still there were enough universal themes present to do well. Hayao Miyazaki, and the rest of the Ghibli crew, have been doing this for decades. There is something refreshing about seeing an anime that, even in a period and location piece (namely 1960's Japan) that the audience may not be familiar with, still attempts to tell a good story rather than simply appeal to only a particular fanbase.

Also, Watanabe just loves showing off with those musical scenes...

Sorrow-kun · « **Reply #12 on:** April 20, 2012, 08:50:35 PM »

Ep 2

Someone (I can't remember who) mentioned that this show would still be worth watching if it was just 12 episodes of non-stop jam sessions, and I'm kinda inclined to agree. The rest of the show is just a bonus. It's the believability of the characters that makes this work.

AC · « **Reply #13 on:** April 20, 2012, 09:11:57 PM »

2:

The way I see it, jazz is just the theme of the show and nobody does it better than Yoko Kanno, with the help of Watanabe to add in the jazzy style. But what grabs my attention is the character interaction. The characters are interesting enough for me to know more, but it's the dynamics between the three protagonists that are amazing. I feel a lot of heart in the scene where they were just cooling off from the summer heat. Yeah, the setup isn't the most original, like TIF put it, yet it feels unique in its own way because the interactions make the characters stand out.

As far as this season is concerned, this along with Space Brothers, Fate/Zero S2 and Lupin III: Fujiko Mine to iu Onna are fighting for the spot for my Favorite Anime of Spring 2012. This season is marvelous.

Sorrows Neptune · « **Reply #14 on:** April 27, 2012, 01:59:29 AM »

3:

Confessing their feelings to each of their love interests already? Man, it's always refreshing when a TV show does away with sexual tension so soon.

Sorrow-kun · « **Reply #15 on:** April 27, 2012, 03:32:37 AM »

Ep 3

Oh, that was just great stuff. It's not the most original story ever, but it's executed so damn well. The characters all feel really genuine, and their emotions and reactions are incredibly believable. The scene where Sentaro asked Yurika out was just totes adorbs.

AC · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2012, 06:44:21 AM »

3:

Did anyone notice how much attention is paid to the detail of 1960s fashion, in particular the whole headscarf thing? That's a nice 60's touch, isn't it.

It's amazing: Sentaro asking (or at least trying to ask) Yurika out was hilarious but another thing that caught my attention was his household. Yup, just seeing his family kinda painted me a better picture of what kind of person he really is: a rough but simple guy who always looks out for the people close to him. But despite how great the episode is, I feel that it was a tad too fast. The events are all good but I have to wonder whether things would be better if the whole of episode 3 is stretched out to 2 episodes instead of one. Just had to say that; other than that, I have no other complaints.

That scene where Kaoru spotted Ritsuko crying was unforgettable.

Flash Sword Irene · « **Reply #17 on:** April 27, 2012, 10:18:14 PM »

Episode 3

Amazingly enough, the pacing of the episode actually didn't feel too jarring. I was expecting more of a build before Kaoru performed that piano piece. Love and humor are two elements that are hard to pull off in anime as most of them are an absolute failure at executing both elements. This series is different as I am so invested in what is going on that I can actually laugh at the humor and be convinced by the romances unfolding. Sentaro asking out Yurika was hilarious and Kaoru's part in the end was something special.

Three episodes in and that is all it takes for one to be completely onboard with things that are going on is a very good sign. I definitely can't wait to see the next episode for sure.

Major Tom · « **Reply #18 on:** April 28, 2012, 01:51:28 AM »

I thought the misunderstanding aspect of this episode felt a lot more genuine than you get in other shows. I also glad there was moves to start resolving it, rather than dragging it out.

Flash Sword Irene · « **Reply #19 on:** May 04, 2012, 12:01:03 AM »

Episode 4

That was an interesting episode and it seems the romances are actually going to take a little more time to develop. Certainly not a bad thing since it now seems the pace from the last episode makes a tad more sense. Not to mention, Watanabe is not pulling any punches with what time period this is based on. So, he really made the setting apparent while making it a nice touch.

On an off-note, I have to wonder how much of the budget goes into each episode since the fluidity of the animation is really nice. To have it at that kind of consistency must cost a lot.

Major Tom · « **Reply #20 on:** May 04, 2012, 04:56:45 AM »

I have to say I feel the show is going a bit fast. Not rushed, but still fast. Quite a few months have passed in the past 2 episodes, and there is a whole lot of interesting stuff that is mentioned in passing. Like Kaoru's home life, I had guessed his aunt was a tight arse, but it wasn't apparent that she's mapping his life out for him. And that was a huge chunk of backstory for Sentaro for one sitting. Even so, it doesn't seem to be negatively impacting on the show at all.

I'm finding Ritsu fascinating. Kaoru is convinced she's holding a torch for Sentaro, but I'm not so sure she is. Last episode she seemed more upset that Yurika was spending time with Sentaro, because she thought Kaoru was into her. She's coming of as much more confused as to what's happening than anything else.

Anyone else look at that PE scene and think 'those poor girls'. The boys get to wear trackies, but winter's approaching and the girls have to do PE in glorified underpants.

AC · « **Reply #21 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:03:34 PM »

4:

DAT JAZZ PERFORMANCE. That was fabulous~!

When it comes to telling a story is a 1960s Nagasaki setting, I thought that it just have to involve some American and discrimination. Guess my hunch was right, and it came in the form of Sentarou's childhood story. It's been known that people of mixed race are often discriminated in Japan -- moreso in the past -- but I just love how that is fleshed out in Sentarou's characterization. But it's a little strange that Sentarou mentioned about his dad without involving his siblings or mom in the story.

And did it surprise anyone what Sentarou and Yurika were up to in the previous episode? If it did, then SHAME ON YOU; I could see that from miles away.

Quote from: Major Tom on May 04, 2012, 04:56:45 AM

I have to say I feel the show is going a bit fast. Not rushed, but still fast.

That's what I'm exactly feeling right now. I'm just wondering if it's because of noitaminA's 11-episode format. Would the pace have been slower (and perhaps better) if it has 13 or even 14 episodes to work with.

leokiko. · « **Reply #22 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:21:23 PM »

They ARE rushing through the manga...incredibly fast. If it was an incompetent director, this series would suck.

Sorrow-kun · « **Reply #23 on:** May 06, 2012, 10:25:48 PM »

Quote from: leokiko. on May 04, 2012, 11:21:23 PM

They ARE rushing through the manga...incredibly fast. If it was an incompetent director, this series would suck.

The pacing is arguably the only thing that can be criticized about this series. Everything else is pretty much pitch perfect.

leokiko. · « **Reply #24 on:** May 06, 2012, 11:00:54 PM »

Quote from: Sorrow-kun on May 06, 2012, 10:25:48 PM

Quote from: leokiko. on May 04, 2012, 11:21:23 PM
They ARE rushing through the manga...incredibly fast. If it was an incompetent director, this series would suck.
The pacing is arguably the only thing that can be criticized about this series. Everything else is pretty much pitch perfect.

If only noitaminA gave 2-cour for it....but oh wait, they gave Guilty Crown an 2-cour!

WHAT-THE-****.

Sorrow-kun · « **Reply #25 on:** May 06, 2012, 11:56:39 PM »

Quote from: leokiko. on May 06, 2012, 11:00:54 PM

If only noitaminA gave 2-cour for it....but oh wait, they gave Guilty Crown an 2-cour!

WHAT-THE-****.

Well, at least we finally have a Noitamina anime that's living up to the hype. Been a while since that last happened.

Reckoner · « **Reply #26 on:** May 07, 2012, 02:32:10 AM »

Whether or not they're rushing the manga, the anime still feels fine. It's succinct and to the point, and I think that suits Watanabe's style more than anything. This anime is simply awesome though.

DrIdiot · « **Reply #27 on:** May 09, 2012, 03:16:26 AM »

I think what this show does best is the mood. It really captures the idea of the spirit of jazz, in the moment.

Flash Sword Irene · « **Reply #28 on:** May 10, 2012, 09:50:36 PM »

Episode 5

Rather heartfelt episode that also had an interesting detail or two about Jun. Plus, the alcohol/water mixup is something that I certainly can relate to and laught at. I think Sentaro's involvement made the episode though with a subtle act or two. Kind of surprising, yet very well done even if it is a simple scene done a million times or so. The song playing at the end was pretty fitting as well.

AC · « **Reply #29 on:** May 10, 2012, 10:31:32 PM »

6:

Hmm. So, correct me if I'm incorrect, but:

Kaoru → Ritsuko → Sentarou → Yurika → Jun

Yup, we're seeing another case of the love chain. Kinda noticed this earlier, but this episode kinda sealed it for me. As for the show itself, yeah, that familiar feeling where a heartache makes you feel like it's the end of the world, when it's just part of adolescence. Sometimes you just need to vent it out in order to return back to normal life. Not sure why Kaoru's mom left him, although this sort of situation is awfully familiar. A lot of reasons could explain it, but I guess it's not that important not after all.

TypicalIdiotFan · « **Reply #30 on:** May 13, 2012, 09:47:58 PM »

5:

If they're rushing through this compared to the manga, I haven't noticed. Watanabe is doing a marvelous job of concealing any missing parts or pieces and the show flows brilliantly. The narratives are becoming engrossing, too. The extra dimension to the romance aspect had my eyebrows raised immediately. I didn't expect that, at least not so soon. Delicious.

So was Kaoru meeting his mother for the first time in ages. I don't know if Watanabe has any personal estrangements with his parents, but there was an honest feeling being displayed there; a realism that I appreciated.

Flash Sword Irene · « **Reply #31 on:** May 17, 2012, 11:42:55 PM »

Episode 6

One new character introduced and he already seems a bit integral to the story. On the surface, his antics make him look like an atypical anime character. On the other hand, they actually have more of a purpose underneath the fluff. Still, it looks like the series is taking a turn or two due to what happened in the end. It makes me wonder if the pace will slow down a bit for the next two episodes or so since it looks like this can take a little more time to flesh out.

Kaoru's character definitely looks like it is getting a run for it's money at the pace this is going. Still, the developments should be interesting.

AC · « **Reply #32 on:** May 18, 2012, 07:43:14 PM »

6:

Okay, I'll be blunt about something: Matsuoka is a plot device. I'm not sure if he's an integral character or not -- let alone be around even after the subplot's over -- although his role did invoke something interesting between Sentarou and Kaoru (in particular, a new detail regarding Kaoru's social ineptness). I'm actually more interested at the last scene there, where the person seen is hinted to be Jun. What happened to him...?

leokiko. · « **Reply #33 on:** May 18, 2012, 10:03:39 PM »

The next volume is my favorite, because it changes the focus to Sentaro and Jun. Fortunately, I will be in the dark on the next episodes since there is no more english scanlations of the manga.

TypicalIdiotFan · « **Reply #34 on:** May 19, 2012, 08:50:26 AM »

6:

So I learned from this episode that Beattles fans are manipulative assholes. Good to know.

I was paying more attention to the conversation between Kaoru and Yuka, though. Not sure really what's going on there, but there is basically two directions that they're going. One is that the mention by one of Jun's boardmates about him "shacking up with a chick" is accurate and Yuka's the chick. The other is that she's heartbroken over the idea of him shacking up with a chick who's not her. We'll see.

Major Tom · « **Reply #35 on:** May 23, 2012, 03:49:03 AM »

Quote from: TypicalIdiotFan on May 19, 2012, 08:50:26 AM

I was paying more attention to the conversation between Kaoru and Yuka, though. Not sure really what's going on there, but there is basically two directions that they're going. One is that the mention by one of Jun's boardmates about him "shacking up with a chick" is accurate and Yuka's the chick. The other is that she's heartbroken over the idea of him shacking up with a chick who's not her. We'll see.

I thought very much the same thing. The way she said 'is that so' to Kaoru's comment sounded very matter of fact. I was thinking at that point 'Oh Jun, she's still in high school!' Then we find out she's crying....yeah, we'll just have to see.

Now Kaoru's tantrum, I get the feeling it was a gut based fear reaction. He's obviously had a friend as close to him as Sentaro is but, I wouldn't say abandoned but that's what it looked like to Kaoru at the time and it hurt him. What Sentaro is planning is nothing at all like what happened back then (and there's no reason that Sentaro can't play in both bands) but that phrase triggered a painful memory and the mere thought of something similar happening again upset him, and I don't think he knew how to deal with it. Hopefully, jazz will work its magic again.

As for the mystery person, not having read the manga I don't know who it is but the first thought that popped through my head was Sentaro's mother. But it being Jun makes more sense, as the whole missing thing has been brewing for 2 episodes.

flucas · « **Reply #36 on:** May 24, 2012, 02:18:52 AM »

Though the production is lagging quite behind when compared to all the other components of the anime, it would really be interesting to see how some implications could really be useful and be put to make the story a little less boring and make the story progress a little faster. Instrumentaly, it would be enticing to make them work together.

Major Tom · « **Reply #37 on:** May 24, 2012, 06:16:01 AM »

Oh yeah, 'My Favourite Things' on the soundtrack, with Ritsuko singing. I'm pretty sure Kaoru is going to end up playing it for her. Though Sentaro needs to back off on the drums for that one, it's a bit more delicate than his usual fare. Interestingly enough, Yuuka Nanri doesn't sing the chorus, I'm not sure what that means, it's no more difficult English that the verse.

Flash Sword Irene · « **Reply #38 on:** May 24, 2012, 11:19:35 PM »

Episode 7

I have mixed feelings about this episode since I thought the conflict would extend beyond this episode despite the earlier pacing. While I don't mind the overall resolution, I think a bit more development before the payoff would have been nice. At least, it looks like there will be more to Jun's situation since it's obviously not done with.

AC · « **Reply #39 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:00:12 AM »

7:

Uhh, music solves just about any conflict, doesn't it. Jazz heals the soul, is what this show's trying to say. That, and how the drums and the piano are superior to the electric guitar because they don't need power to work.

And Pops, how could you forget about Jun camping in the basement? What, a fetching chick walks into the store and you forget something that important, eh?

TypicalIdiotFan · « **Reply #40 on:** May 27, 2012, 11:17:49 PM »

7:

This might be the first episode where I feel like the claims that they're rushing or cramming the storyline together actually became noticeable. I, and the viewers, have known that Yurika has had a thing for Jun for a while now, but I never got the clue that Sentaro was in the know. Could be excused that I'm not giving the big lug enough credit for observation, but I would think there should have been something to reveal to us that he's knowledgeable. Meh.

I thought the growing crowd for the duo's jazz jam session was a bit... corny, but I can forgive them because the scene was, once again, done so beautifully that I could buy that people were really into what they were doing.

leokiko. · « **Reply #41 on:** May 28, 2012, 12:56:14 AM »

Sentaro went on a date with her and all she talked about was Jun after he mentioned him once, so he discovered by then. The growing crowd was an way to fill the scenes, which were mostly of the audience. In the manga, there is none of that, with students from the audience actually going ''what are they playing...is it jazz''? What I felt was an more realistic reaction.

TypicalIdiotFan · « **Reply #42 on:** May 28, 2012, 01:06:59 AM »

I recalled that, but I guess I didn't put two and two together. I figured Sentaro was more upset with himself for being unable to talk about anything but Jun. Hmm... guess that works now in hindsight.

SQA · « **Reply #43 on:** May 31, 2012, 07:40:35 PM »

8: Well, I think we just moved another few months. Still, the series is going great.

One thing to discuss, though, is an undercurrent of the series that is lost a bit in the speed but, I would assume, be more obvious in the manga. This is still set in 1967. The characters would still be pairing off towards marriage at this age range. Our main 3 are close to their final year of high school and Yurika should be a few months from graduation. This is still technically pre-Sexual Revolution even in the USA (it's just getting into swing, but won't really supremely kick off until '68). I'm of the impression those movements won't hit Japan for a little longer and not in the same way. So this is a very different relationship world than anything we're all used to.

Which brings us to Kaoru. Given the Jam Session, his top ranks in the class and the future scion of a family with a decent amount of wealth, he'd be the prized "get" of the guys going into their senior year. At least we're getting hints about it from around him, though Ritsuko would realize this is a bit more than the characterization seems to suggest. Though we seem to be in for a closing arc with something of a Love Triangle inversion and likely not much resolution. While the series is great, there's only so much more to be done in the last 3 episodes.

My last point on this episode is something we all saw coming, but it's one of those "twitches" in certain genres you just have to expect. This is a josei series. Shounen Battle series have the "Ass Pull Power". Harem series have the "Pathetic and Unworthy Main Male". Josei has the "Lampshaded Critically Stupid Mistake that a Female Character will still make". Yurika ends up being our Josei trope for the series. It's going to end very, very badly for her and I haven't read the manga. Jun is an interesting character, but she's massively screwed up that choice. It'll be interesting to see how much of a resolution we're given in the anime itself.

Flash Sword Irene · « **Reply #44 on:** May 31, 2012, 11:43:03 PM »

Episode 8

It looks like loads of complications in a tricky love triangle for sure. This is not material I would know of Watanabe handling extensively, much less doing it well. (Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo do not give me a good idea really.) Even if my memory on that is a tad rusty, I really wonder how he is going to handle this until the end. My interest is definitely piqued since there can't be a lot of room for error on this.

Sorrows Neptune · « **Reply #45 on:** June 01, 2012, 12:59:39 AM »

8:

Earlier today I was thinking to myself, "You know, now that I think about it, the setting is pretty irrelevant to Kids on the Slopes; I'm sure it'd mostly be the same if set in modern day."

...and then I watched this episode. Yeah, this was definitely set in 1966/1967 for a reason.

TypicalIdiotFan · « **Reply #46 on:** June 01, 2012, 02:07:02 AM »

8:

Starting to get a little Honey & Clover with the relationship complications here, ain't we?

Major Tom · « **Reply #47 on:** June 01, 2012, 09:05:26 AM »

Yeah, Yurika hooking up with Jun is a decision that is going to bite her in the arse one way or the other. Her family seems to be rather well off, so some poor university drop out is not good for her family's social standing. She may make it work with Jun, but her father will probably disown her. Worst case scenario being she breaks up with Jun and loses her family, leaving her with quite literally nowhere to go. I'd be hesitant to say she hasn't thought this through as we aren't given much insight into her decision making processes, but she is definitely acting more with her heart than her head here.

SQA · « **Reply #48 on:** June 01, 2012, 12:49:51 PM »

Quote from: TypicalIdiotFan on June 01, 2012, 02:07:02 AM

8:

Starting to get a little Honey & Clover with the relationship complications here, ain't we?

We haven't verged into clinically significant mental disorder territory yet. But it is quite complicated.

DrIdiot · « **Reply #49 on:** June 07, 2012, 11:44:58 AM »

We've descended deep into melodramatic territory but somehow Watanabe manages to keep it real. I mean, it's melodrama but it's convincing, somehow...

Reckoner · « **Reply #50 on:** June 07, 2012, 10:50:21 PM »

ep 9:

I suspect there is yet a road of hardship remaining for Jun and Yurika but better to choose a life of possible happiness and love than one that is completely loveless I suppose?

I'm still thoroughly convinced that in the hands of a lesser director, this adaption would have felt VERY uneven and badly paced. Instead Watanabe manages to deliver the heart and soul of this story fairly easily. It makes it look so easy when it has no right to be this simple.

Interested in how this show plans to wrap itself up towards the closing episodes.

Flash Sword Irene · « **Reply #51 on:** June 07, 2012, 10:51:45 PM »

Episode 9

Looks like someone finally made their move. With one thing resolved (a tad cliched, but it is ok), now we have the other since it should be interesting. But, damn time moves extremely fast in this show.

AC · « **Reply #52 on:** June 12, 2012, 08:00:59 AM »

8, 9:

Watched two episodes at one go, and perhaps it's a good decision on my part. Because the episodes were that good.

Yurika's story is, in truth, very familiar: girl born in a rich family but gets trapped by her own societal status and runs off with a societal reject. It may not be the most wise move on her part, but in such love stories, it's appealing to the heart. Not the most original storyline, but it was pulled off really well. As for the Ritsuko-Kaoru relationship, I wonder how things will turn out. Sentaro is out of the picture already -- poor chap; seems that he's the odd one out of the five in the love chain -- so we only have Kaoru and Ritsuko left to conclude.

Flash Sword Irene · « **Reply #53 on:** June 14, 2012, 11:58:31 AM »

Episode 10

It looks like Kaoru/Ri'ko seems wrapped up atm while the end was rather interesting. (Although, it looks like Kaoru might need to get his mojo back.) It looks like the focus shifts to Sentaro and it will be interesting to see where this goes with the develpments in the end. It seems like they are going to try and cover any loose ends left, so this will probably end with Kaoru's single issue left.

AC · « **Reply #54 on:** June 15, 2012, 08:44:03 PM »

10:

Honestly, although it may look like Sentarou and his dad doesn't have issues anymore, I don't want this to be the case. Sentarou and his dad have never been on good terms with each other, so if they really have resolved their issues now, it would seem very weird. It's like seeing an impending problem that fixed itself. Seeing the two meet and face their problems would make for good drama, but at the same time, I'm not sure if it can be resolved perfectly within an episode (since we only have one left, if the show's 11 episodes long).

And yes, if there's anything wrong with the show, the pace's a little too fast. In one scene, Kaoru and Ritsuko declared their relationship in the winter/spring seasons, and in the next, Kaoru's moping over his pathetic self in the relationship towards summer. That's (minor) time warping for you.

leokiko. · « **Reply #55 on:** June 15, 2012, 09:02:54 PM »

I dropped this by episode 9. Trying to adapt so much in so little time is stupid, period. The manga is so much better anyway. I just download episodes to hear the music pieces by now.

BloodMoney · « **Reply #56 on:** June 15, 2012, 10:37:30 PM »

Quote from: AC on June 15, 2012, 08:44:03 PM

10:

Honestly, although it may look like Sentarou and his dad doesn't have issues anymore, I don't want this to be the case. Sentarou and his dad have never been on good terms with each other, so if they really have resolved their issues now, it would seem very weird. It's like seeing an impending problem that fixed itself. Seeing the two meet and face their problems would make for good drama, but at the same time, I'm not sure if it can be resolved perfectly within an episode (since we only have one left, if the show's 11 episodes long).

And yes, if there's anything wrong with the show, the pace's a little too fast. In one scene, Kaoru and Ritsuko declared their relationship in the winter/spring seasons, and in the next, Kaoru's moping over his pathetic self in the relationship towards summer. That's (minor) time warping for you.

It's been confirmed for 12 episodes thankfully.

AC · « **Reply #57 on:** June 22, 2012, 04:58:49 AM »

11:

Aww man. Here I am, hoping that the Sentarou and his dad are still at it and what I got is the problem being swept neatly under the rug. The only thing I got was Sentarou trying to leave home, thinking that him and his dad can't co-exist under one roof.

I'm not sure what to feel about that plot twist towards the end, where Sachiko was revealed to be on Sentarou's bike at the time of the accident. There wasn't any clue to hint that there was someone on his bike so it would surprise just about any audience, but more importantly, there's no sense of tension because to us audience Sachiko recovered faster than the time it would take for us to understand how grievous the situation was. In one scene, we're hinted that Sachiko may be in comatose state indefinitely, and in another, she woke up and we had happily ever after ending.

DrIdiot · « **Reply #58 on:** June 22, 2012, 11:11:18 PM »

Quote from: AC on June 22, 2012, 04:58:49 AM

11:

Aww man. Here I am, hoping that the Sentarou and his dad are still at it and what I got is the problem being swept neatly under the rug. The only thing I got was Sentarou trying to leave home, thinking that him and his dad can't co-exist under one roof.

I'm not sure what to feel about that plot twist towards the end, where Sachiko was revealed to be on Sentarou's bike at the time of the accident. There wasn't any clue to hint that there was someone on his bike so it would surprise just about any audience, but more importantly, there's no sense of tension because to us audience Sachiko recovered faster than the time it would take for us to understand how grievous the situation was. In one scene, we're hinted that Sachiko may be in comatose state indefinitely, and in another, she woke up and we had happily ever after ending.

I thought that you could see her hair behind him on the bike, but I'm not sure, too lazy to check. But I agree on other points.

I think my biggest problem with this series is it's become rather aimless. At first I thought it would be about music, in some sense. I don't think you can play the "music heals" thing too much, though it does become an outlet for your emotions, I think. At any rate, where did the music go? Because that was what separated it (along with apt directing) from banal high school drama.

Flash Sword Irene · « **Reply #59 on:** June 22, 2012, 11:58:12 PM »

Episode 11

If the next episode really is the finale, then I hope it is a damn good one. This episode definitely seemed rushed since it was obvious that it should have been two parts. Either that, or take creative liberty for a better result. The whole thing with the accident didn't come off too well since it was pretty underwhelming for the most part.

Well, the only thing left from what it seems is the return of Kaoru's father which is most likely going to conclude things. Although, I am not sure how they build up to this moment with a bang within one episode.

Fumoffu!! · « **Reply #60 on:** June 28, 2012, 10:27:21 AM »

The Series

The directing was fantastic, and the characters were likable, however near the end the pace picked up too much, and it felt rushed at the end. The story also could have been better. The art was very good, as was the sound, and overall I'm giving this a solid 7.

I didn't feel particularly attached to the show though, excluding this, I've only posted once on it for the entire 12 episodes, as I just didn't have anything to say on it, it goes a quite a bit into my indifference region. This is why I wouldn't rate it any higher, and briefly considered a 6.

DrIdiot · « **Reply #61 on:** June 28, 2012, 05:59:13 PM »

LOL AWWWKWARD KISS. That was excellently done.

This has been annoying me for awhile, but I don't like Ri's voice actress. For whatever reason, it's in the culture of anime to have these really whiny high-pitched sounding girls... they don't come up in J-dramas.

Anyway I thought this was a good finale. This kind of thing, I think our generation can feel a little nostalgic for. It's much less common to have long lost friends with the Internet, and especially Facebook around.

The pacing was definitely a bit off. I think the biggest problem is that he tried to cram too much of the plot in and we didn't have enough time to really let the details sink in, which are what we need to feel emotionally connected, for his nostalgia to feel real. Some plot elements could have been cut out or modified to fit the short season. Well, I'm exaggerating -- I think it did a good job still, but it could have done a much better job if it had just pruned a bit.

And of course, the music.

8/10 despite all its flaws

AC · « **Reply #62 on:** June 29, 2012, 09:13:25 PM »

Final:

Gotta feel happy for the train nut... whatever his name is. Never really bothered to remember his name, honestly.

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My thoughts on Sakamichi no Apollon:

This is a series that I had my eye on before the start of Spring 2012. It simply had the formula for a masterpiece: Watanabe Shinichiro for director, Kanno Yoko for music composer, and an original manga that won in the Shogakukan awards. Although the genre is all too familiar (summer slice-of-life), it's more about the ups and downs of adolescence, and on top of that, the enjoyment of jazz as its running theme.

The jazz is of course top-notch; you just can't go wrong with Kanno's work. The visuals are great; the shading and differential tones give the visuals that extra depth and the fluid animation upon the jazz session is a feast to the eyes. The setting is unique; you don't really get shows that employs 1960's Nagasaki very often, and more importantly, it uses the setting well to set the mood and fit the theme. And, it goes without saying that the characterization is the best aspect of Apollon: well-written drama and character dynamics among Nishimi, Sentarou and Ritsuko are perhaps the aspects I will remember the most about this title.

The main issue I have with Apollon is the pacing. It feels awfully hasty at times, and it's apparent that the content is condensed from the main source. One event simply leads to another sooner than I could digest, and not enough time was spent on amplify certain momentous scenes e.g. Nishimi and Ritsuko being in a relationship. Also, the time warping. I actually wouldn't expect to see this, and although it wasn't a bad call to use it per se, I'd wish that it was executed better.

Nevertheless, it's an 8/10. It's a huge sign of relief to see noitaminA finally improving and offering something good for once, especially when the timeblock last gave us Guilty Crown and Black Rock Shooter i.e. horrible, horrible titles. It's not exactly amazing, but I'm not gonna complain much about one I enjoyed a lot this season.

Major Tom · « **Reply #63 on:** June 30, 2012, 07:31:09 AM »

Despite its brevity, I really liked that ending. It was really sweet (and I didn't see a ring on Ritsuko's finger, so there's hope for Kaoru and Ritsuko yet).

I pretty much agree with what's already been said. Everything about the show was fantastic, except it was easily 24 episodes worth of material crammed into 12. Fortunately the show was in the hands of a master, otherwise it would have been a mess. I can't really fault Wantanabe on that, the series length probably wasn't his call to make (though I say that not knowing how these thing are decided). Even so, I do wonder why such an involved story was only given such a short time frame to work with.

In any case, the show is a solid 8/10 form me. I reckon I'll be looking into the manga, especially if it gets translated into print form.

TypicalIdiotFan · « **Reply #64 on:** June 30, 2012, 09:43:33 AM »

Anything less than an 8 is criminal. Yes, I agree that the last few episodes really felt the pinch of a rush, which was not noticeable until then, but overall this was a great show full of likeable characters, with great directing and awesome music. There are flaws, but not enough to drop it to a lower grade.

Fumoffu!! · « **Reply #65 on:** June 30, 2012, 06:07:37 PM »

Quote from: TypicalIdiotFan on June 30, 2012, 09:43:33 AM

Anything less than an 8 is criminal.

Lock me up Sergeant.

Feels like Bebop all over again, albeit much less extreme.

Flash Sword Irene · « **Reply #66 on:** June 30, 2012, 11:29:10 PM »

Finale

That was actually not a bad ending and it was pretty good for what it was. On the other hand, it was kind of annoying that they finally decided to use a note for a time skip since that would have been nice earlier on. Still, this is to me the second best series I have seen from Watanabe as it was fairly entertaining while helped by the OST. (Cowboy Bebop is first and Samurai Champloo in third place respectively.) However, this series didn't exactly reach it's full potential in my mind since it still comes up slightly short from greatness. Even then, I wouldn't mind giving this a second go at the very least.

My Rating: 7.5 (Or a 7 on MAL)/10 (Can't go with an 8 since it comes up just short of it IMO.)

Sorrows Neptune · « **Reply #67 on:** July 04, 2012, 12:38:36 AM »

Final:

Now that was a good ending. The shift from a totally cynical to heartily optimistic tone was perfect. They even managed to put in another jazz session without it seeming forced or cheesy.

Honestly, it was only a few times that the quick pacing actually bothered me; for the most part I didn't think it really hindered the plot, and it was a damn good plot.

A low 9/10.

Sorrow-kun · « **Reply #68 on:** July 10, 2012, 04:58:19 AM »

Disappointed by that ending. The series was otherwise good but deserved much better than the cop-out timeskip that we got. The timeskip just struck me as a hand-wave. What was really resolved? Sentarou ran away from what he did and never faced it. He essentially abandoned his family in general and his sister is specific because of the accident. How is that supposed to make her feel? For someone who's supposed to be so family orientated, all he showed was the same flaws as his father, minus the alcoholism.

What about the relationship between Kaoru and Ritsuko? Where was that at the end? They made amends and then he takes off to Tokyo and never sees her again? Next thing we know it's 8 years later. Did they even attempt a long term relationship, or did he just forget about her (or, more accurately, abandon her) completely in the interim? And then they expect us to believe that the reunion on Sentarou's remote island is anything but awkward?

I really liked the show otherwise, but that ending didn't sit well with me on a number of levels. 8/10 for me, but not as resounding as it was prior to the last episode.

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