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Re: Steins;Gate
« Reply #90 on: September 14, 2011, 06:31:24 PM »
Questionable plot points

Strange. I don't see any. Maybe it's because I played the VN, but I feel that the anime explained everything clearly enough.

Lots of Mayushi Death

How's that a con? It's what makes the series ever so powerful.

As for Mayushi death, the first, second and third deaths were good. The first was shocking, and the second and third just deepened the sorrow. What I dislike more than anything is the fact they held back on explaining the attractor field, so I was getting increasingly irritated at the fact Mayushi kept on dying due to seemingly "fate", due to the contrived ways in which she died. To be honest I meant it in a light hearted way anyway, but I remembered that criticism.

Questionable plot points - Well, I think I'll withdraw this point. What this really means is that I've forgotten details, and it would be solved if I rewatched it.... Which I don't really want to do since I'd miss out on another series. I'm starting to think I'll just do it anyway. I'll withdraw on the slow beginning too, this is again because I should rewatch it, it felt so much slower due to the weekly release.

In any case, while ImperialX and Jack Rav enjoy new favourites, while I can't fault Steins;Gate, I won't be. Why? Simply because, while it's technically brilliant, I don't love it the way I love my favourites. Usually, when I finish something that I really really like, I'll feel strangely terrible when it finishes, because it's all over. Perhaps I might get it if I rewatch it...

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Re: Steins;Gate
« Reply #91 on: September 14, 2011, 08:43:19 PM »
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I'll keep it brief, as Imperial and Jack have already covered all of exactly why they love the show. I mirror their sentiments, and Steins;Gate has now found its place as my third favourite anime of all time; ousting Death Note from the coveted third spot.

Also, I'll just re-post something Imperial dug up elsewhere:

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It has been confirmed now that the movie will be completely original work. Awesome news.

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This is, of course, great news. Even though I haven't played the VN - although it will be translated...soon - I'd still hate to know that canon stuff will be used for the film, as would make Steins;Gate seem less complete.

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Re: Steins;Gate
« Reply #92 on: September 18, 2011, 01:18:03 AM »
It's undoubtedly a good anime, but I'm still making up my mind whether or not I'm willing to call it a great anime.

The thing I think it lacks is thematic elegance.  The plot is fairly tight, although I echo some of Fumoffu!! criticisms about the arbitrariness of some of the time travel related phenomena, especially the Attractor Field, but I can't see what Steins;Gate ultimately wanted to say about time travel.  With the exception of having to witness both Mayushi and Kurisu die over and over, I don't think Okabe ended up having to pay anything to get an ideal ending.  I daresay there would have been way more irony in an ending where Okabe died to save Kurisu.  I almost feel as if it cheapens the conflict created a few episodes ago, in which he had to choose between saving Mayushi and Kurisu.  In this ending, he gets to have both.

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Re: Steins;Gate
« Reply #93 on: September 18, 2011, 02:28:05 AM »
If anyone's interested, the full patch for the VN is out, just not edited. Google it to find it.

This show was one of the best this year, in a year of some heavy hitters. 8 or 9 for me.

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Re: Steins;Gate
« Reply #94 on: September 19, 2011, 11:33:08 AM »
I dropped this a while ago because it just wasnt going anywhere. Is there a payoff at the end, is it worth watching?
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Re: Steins;Gate
« Reply #95 on: September 19, 2011, 12:53:54 PM »
I dropped this a while ago because it just wasnt going anywhere. Is there a payoff at the end, is it worth watching?

There's a review giving it a 9, two posts on this forum saying how it's become one of their favourite anime ever (18th for ImperialX and in top 3 for Jack Rav I believe), and the rest of the posts saying how they liked it too. Did you not know the answer you'd get already?

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Re: Steins;Gate
« Reply #96 on: September 20, 2011, 03:32:15 AM »
Well excuse me for not wanting to be spoiled and ignoring most of the posts. Didnt notice the review tho, so yea i can say that easily. ;)
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Re: Steins;Gate
« Reply #97 on: September 21, 2011, 07:08:45 AM »
I've finally finished marathoning the entire series, and have realized what the hubbub's all about concerning this show.

I'll cut to the chase: this is a great anime, and arguably the most coherent and competent parallel universe-themed anime ever. Plot-wise, it's amazing; people may criticize the theories and hypotheses that the show assumes, but I have no issue whatsoever about this because whatever the show brought to the table, it was done with careful thought. In short, it's very well-written.

I see many influences from other shows here: I see Madoka Magica's influence of how an outcome can't be changed unless something drastic happens; I see Noein's concept of one's existence through another person's acknowledgement, and I see Higurashi Kai's idea of retaining memories between world lines. Yes it may be a little repetitive to see Mayurii's death over and over again, but to me this is important in the overall narrative as it each death depicts how Okabe failed to save her under changing circumstances. It's nothing like Suzumiya S2's Endless Eight at all.

I will point out only two issues: one is the slow pacing at the initial phase (but god, the plot cogwheel really began to turn from episode 12 onwards) and the other is the ending (Okabe being alive at the end just feels a little too good an ending). However, for a show that turns out to be a dark horse with a great storyline, characters that I care about and effective plot twists, I will give all the kudos it deserves.

A 9/10 for me. For now, I'm not sure what the purpose of a movie is since the story has been wrapped up nicely. Are they going to pull off another Gurren-hen or Lagann-hen, the TTGL movies which eventually paled to the original series?

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Re: Steins;Gate
« Reply #98 on: September 21, 2011, 04:39:42 PM »
Spoiler for Hiden:
I've finally finished marathoning the entire series, and have realized what the hubbub's all about concerning this show.

I'll cut to the chase: this is a great anime, and arguably the most coherent and competent parallel universe-themed anime ever. Plot-wise, it's amazing; people may criticize the theories and hypotheses that the show assumes, but I have no issue whatsoever about this because whatever the show brought to the table, it was done with careful thought. In short, it's very well-written.

I see many influences from other shows here: I see Madoka Magica's influence of how an outcome can't be changed unless something drastic happens; I see Noein's concept of one's existence through another person's acknowledgement, and I see Higurashi Kai's idea of retaining memories between world lines. Yes it may be a little repetitive to see Mayurii's death over and over again, but to me this is important in the overall narrative as it each death depicts how Okabe failed to save her under changing circumstances. It's nothing like Suzumiya S2's Endless Eight at all.

I will point out only two issues: one is the slow pacing at the initial phase (but god, the plot cogwheel really began to turn from episode 12 onwards) and the other is the ending (Okabe being alive at the end just feels a little too good an ending). However, for a show that turns out to be a dark horse with a great storyline, characters that I care about and effective plot twists, I will give all the kudos it deserves.

A 9/10 for me.

Agrees with everything except the Madoka influence (Steins;Gate as a VN was released far before Madoka, and this is a faithful adaptation). 9/10 is the right score to give it though.

For now, I'm not sure what the purpose of a movie is since the story has been wrapped up nicely. Are they going to pull off another Gurren-hen or Lagann-hen, the TTGL movies which eventually paled to the original series?

It has been confirmed that the movie will be of original work and not a retelling of the story like the TTGL movies.

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Re: Steins;Gate
« Reply #99 on: February 23, 2012, 09:07:23 AM »
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To be honest, this OVA felt unnecessary. It wasn't part of the original visual novel either. It was exactly what it was - an extra episode designed to promote sales for the Blu-Ray Discs (alas, milking the franchise more).

The Steins;Gate TV series ending (as well as the visual novel) implied that Kurisu somehow recovered all her memories, since she replied to Okabe's talk and accepted the pin. Naturally, we just accepted this great ending without asking how it was possible. This OVA patched this final plot hole in Steins;Gate: by revealing that Kurisu didn't keep all her memories after all and her relationship with Okabe isn't just going to magically repair itself.

While the OVA itself is solid, and the ending was touching, I can't help but feel the existence of this episode undermines the epicness that was the ending of the TV series. Yes, the TV series' ending has a plot hole, but regardless it was a heartwarming and touching scene. The ending provided in this OVA doesn't have any plot holes, but isn't as emotionally powerful (no miracles occurring like the TV ending implied).

I know it's strange that I'm criticizing an episode for filling up a plot hole, but I felt that the plot hole actually made the series more beautiful, and patching it made it seem...more bland.

7/10 from me. The OVA itself had no flaws, but didn't captivate me like the series did.

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Re: Steins;Gate
« Reply #100 on: February 24, 2012, 07:53:24 AM »
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Re: Steins;Gate
« Reply #101 on: February 24, 2012, 01:27:09 PM »
I rather enjoyed the OVA. They put all the best jokes from the series in there, and the scenes of Okabe getting arrested are pure gold. This is how fanservice should be done, not softcore porn bs.

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Re: Steins;Gate
« Reply #103 on: February 20, 2013, 06:52:33 PM »
if anyone is interested, here is a link to the opening for the new Steins;Gate VN. Steins;Gate: Senkei Kōsoku no Phenogram/Linear Bounded Phenogram. The song is called Phenogram and is sung by Ayane. Meanwhile, i think Itou Kanako will sing the ending as she seems to be required by law to sing in the Science Adventure games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75bR2b0o8qI
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