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Title: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Shinmaru on October 06, 2012, 09:12:41 AM
So dumb. So ridiculous. I love it already.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: SQA on October 06, 2012, 09:35:23 AM
Most badly done villains give you the "I'm evil face, really!" face.  JoJo's Bizarre Adventure takes it to its logical conclusion: "Hello, I'm the villain, let me kick your dog!" 

So over the top, so overwrought, so freaking brilliant.  This is like the perfect "good Bad" series.  I can see why it has such a following.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Sorrows Neptune on October 06, 2012, 09:57:59 AM
1:

And now I'm left wondering why I've never bothered to read the manga. It's exactly the kind of over-the-top action series I can see myself raving about for weeks.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: leokiko. on October 06, 2012, 10:34:24 AM
That.was.so.over.the.top.

Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: shiijin on October 06, 2012, 11:02:43 AM
1: "So bad it's good" perfectly described this first episode. i am SO hooked.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Shinmaru on October 06, 2012, 11:22:28 AM
I wouldn't even say it's "so bad it's good." It has a distinctly juvenile, campy style and revels in it. Incredibly silly and ridiculous, yes, but it's not pretending to be anything different. It's fun trash, as they say.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Major Tom on October 06, 2012, 03:06:50 PM
Wow, that was so ridiculous, yet awesome!  My brothers have read bits of the manga, and it seems they blasted through several volumes there, so I expect this to be paced very quickly.

The theme that played during the fight where Jojo finally beat the shit out of Dio......did my ear play tricks on me or was that lifted directly from Dune?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Hokuto_Spirit on October 06, 2012, 03:25:48 PM
The theme that played during the fight where Jojo finally beat the shit out of Dio......did my ear play tricks on me or was that lifted directly from Dune?

Well the project is being funded by WB and they managed to have a song from Yes as the ED, so I wouldn't put it past them.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on October 06, 2012, 03:52:54 PM
Episode 1

Muda! Muda! Muda! Muda! Muda! Muda! Muda! Muda! Muda! Muda! Muda! Muda!  I have been waiting for another JoJo anime for awhile and I am not disappointed thus far.  Seeing how Dio gained Za Warudo! while eternally struggling with Jonathan makes me quite happy.  The artstyle and visuals for this series has always been flamboyant and full of flair.  They have certainly captured that aspect thus far and I love it.

Mindless fun can actually be good if done right and it looks like that is how it will go.  Usually, I absolutely hate Shonen fare since they are god awful garbage.  (Naruto and Bleach being the prime examples of how to do everything wrong and possibly worse then DBZ.)  But, somehow JoJo's Bizarre Adventure transcends that despite being what it is.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: SQA on October 06, 2012, 10:55:12 PM
I just realized that rewatching Arakawa Under the Bridge is going to be really problematic.  I'm going to see Sister as Dio, most of the time, now.  So when Stella goes Fist of the North Star/JoJo mode, it's going to be really awkward. 
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Fumoffu!! on October 07, 2012, 02:13:10 PM
That was... odd.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Shadowmage on October 08, 2012, 09:42:58 PM
I must tip my hat to whoever was in charge of the visuals for this anime.  It's obviously low budget but it's presented in a way that's extremely effective.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: SQA on October 13, 2012, 12:50:31 AM
2:

Now, THAT is an OP.  And the episode was pretty interesting for the badassery and the GAR moments.  I liked that they were playing rugby and they got that right.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: leokiko. on October 13, 2012, 01:37:53 AM
Best OP of the season confirmed.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: TypicalIdiotFan on October 17, 2012, 02:35:18 AM
1-2:

Holy crap.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: shiijin on October 17, 2012, 08:40:07 AM
2: " I got cut up by a hat, hitting up to my bones, Ain't nobody got time for dat!" if it's any more GAR, i'm going to call this the spiritual successor to Fist of the North Star. I love it.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: leokiko. on October 18, 2012, 07:51:56 PM
Next episode is gonna be a game-changer...'is what I'm reading everywhere. Looking foward to it.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: SQA on October 20, 2012, 06:17:43 AM
3:

Well, that was awesome.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Clicking on October 20, 2012, 01:57:37 PM
3:

My body can never be ready for an episode of this show.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: shiijin on October 20, 2012, 04:02:57 PM
3: this is amazing. everything. wow. Dio even did his "Mudamudamuda!" and "WRYYYY" lines. so epic.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on October 20, 2012, 11:45:54 PM
Episode 3

Speedwagon-tastic.  This is one of the few shows that convinces me that crying can be manly and awesome.  I definitely need a sig based on Jojo'
s Bizarre Adventure now.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: SQA on October 27, 2012, 10:34:39 PM
4:

More Speedwagon being awesome and now... Ripple.  Oh, there was an awesome Italian, Erina and Dio being more badass than Jack the Ripper.  This series is just so awesome.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Clicking on October 27, 2012, 11:01:09 PM
4:

I love how several of the characters are named after rock icons. First Ronnie James Dio, then R.E.O. Speedwagon, and now Led Zeppelin. It's a minor touch really, but it's still pretty goddamn awesome. Plus, JoJo's arm turned into a sparkling rainbow at one point. Goddamn, I love this show.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Hokuto_Spirit on October 27, 2012, 11:35:12 PM
4:

I love how several of the characters are named after rock icons. First Ronnie James Dio, then R.E.O. Speedwagon, and now Led Zeppelin. It's a minor touch really, but it's still pretty goddamn awesome. Plus, JoJo's arm turned into a sparkling rainbow at one point. Goddamn, I love this show.

In addition: Jojo is a reference to Get Back and Erina is engrish for Eleanor Rigby. Most notable characters and all stand names in JJBA are references to something, usually music.

Just wait until you see the names in part 2.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: leokiko. on October 27, 2012, 11:53:25 PM
...And the nazis.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: hyperknees91 on October 28, 2012, 02:19:16 PM
How in the world was I not watching this...my god this show is crazy fun.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on October 29, 2012, 07:46:39 PM
Episode 4

That was nothing short of FABULOUS due to Zepelli.  Honestly, there is some magic behind this show and it works.  Really, I have not had so much fun in a long time and that scene with the frog exemplifies it since it was so damned awesome.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Hokuto_Spirit on November 04, 2012, 03:49:11 PM
5:
(http://i.minus.com/ibvFNENB0cq0Bt.png)

Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Clicking on November 04, 2012, 08:05:29 PM
(http://i.minus.com/ibvFNENB0cq0Bt.png)

Dude must eat a lot of bread.

5:

Every episode puts me on the edge of uproarious laughter and adrenaline fueled "hell yeahs!" and I ****ing love it.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: TypicalIdiotFan on November 10, 2012, 03:28:12 AM
5:

God this is ****ing dumb.

Like I said, throwbacks are okay if they're not supposed to be taken seriously, but this is so damned full of itself it hurts.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: leokiko. on November 10, 2012, 09:47:37 AM
Because this is old-school, that's all. It is supposed to be full of itself because that's what shonens were back then. It's not bad, it's just not for you, so drop it if you didn't like it up until now. But I guess you enjoy torturing yourself through stuff you don't like.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: SQA on November 10, 2012, 10:18:16 AM
I wouldn't say its full of itself.  This is more like Spinal Tap Kombat.  And I love it.  It's over the top, glorious and unashamedly fun.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: hyperknees91 on November 10, 2012, 12:24:31 PM
I don't think you can call an intentionally ridiculous show full of itself. The author is just having fun with his own work and not letting anything stop him haha.

I can see where you're coming from though, but that's just the nature of over-the-top shounen action.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: TypicalIdiotFan on November 10, 2012, 05:03:40 PM
Okay... just trying to help you guys understand something:  there's a reason something becomes a throwback.  It's because it was okay when it was fresh, but once we all grew up a bit and realized how ****ing stupid it was, we moved on and refined our tastes, and the industry advanced as well.  I'm not saying modern shounen are great either, but we don't see this kind of ultra cheesy crap anymore on purpose.

This is how the manga went, back when it started, so I'm not blaming the mangaka or anything for doing something that was hip at the time.  I also don't know snot about later volumes of the manga, so I don't know if he improved this or not.  I can even forgive the fans of the original thing for continuing with it.  I mean, by this point, it's just familiar to them.

But bear in mind I'm coming into this cold, and for a guy like me, this is ****ing awful.  I get it.  It was cool back then.  Now?  Gimme a break.  They also had to realize this, but just decided to do a faithful adaptation.  Hey, whatever rocks your boat.  But don't try to sell me on this dated crap being good, because it ain't.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: leokiko. on November 10, 2012, 05:18:45 PM
I'd rather have Jojo a billion times than more shit shonens like Ao no Exorcist from today.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: hyperknees91 on November 10, 2012, 05:36:19 PM
I don't think anyone's trying to say it's "good" per say. It's a fun hammy show, that's all there is to it (which of course not everyone will like).

The problem with most shounen action shows these days is they take themselves a little too seriously (hence why hunter x hunter and one piece dominate all of them).

That being said there is true crap from back in the day that is crap (baki the grappler ewwwww). But yeah, like you said it's a rather niche genre for these days. It's usually in video games like no more heroes, then anime.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: fluffybunnyboy on November 22, 2012, 12:49:19 AM
It's because it was okay when it was fresh, but once we all grew up a bit and realized how ****ing stupid it was, we moved on and refined our tastes, and the industry advanced as well.
So you emphasize that you're an adult, and you think that your "tastes" are much too "refined" to enjoy a show that's meant to be ridiculous, goofy fun.

And you think this show is full of itself? =P
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: TypicalIdiotFan on November 22, 2012, 04:02:39 AM
Quote
And you think this show is full of itself? =P

Hmm... it's almost as if I didn't try to say that I'm a pretentious adult on purpose so that I could point out why Jojo's Bizarre Adventure sucks balls. 

Yeah, I'm full of myself because I'm not a ****ing kid anymore.  Try to keep up.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: fluffybunnyboy on November 22, 2012, 05:09:59 AM
Hmm... it's almost as if I didn't try to say that I'm a pretentious adult on purpose so that I could point out why Jojo's Bizarre Adventure sucks balls. 

Yeah, I'm full of myself because I'm not a ****ing kid anymore.  Try to keep up.
Come on, you're acting like the real life embodiment of the "Threw It On the Ground (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ)" guy. xD

No, you have not yet pointed out why Jojo "sucks balls" at all. What I see from you are mostly emotional reactions, and not true constructive criticism. You claim that "throwbacks are okay if they're not supposed to be taken seriously", all while failing to notice that episode 5 had a guy using his burning red abs as a grill to heat up another man's frozen arm. The animators clearly and obviously have their tongues set firmly in cheek, here. This is a series that broadcasts loud and clear that it's meant to be ridiculous fun, and its fans enjoy it for all the laughs it brings, among other things.

The second story arc is especially where the comedy value and the craziness ramps up. I don't want to spoil anything for the people still watching, but... If you haven't read the manga before, then you're in for one hell of an entertaining ride. The second Jojo protagonist is very, very different from the first. I'd say that part 2 is where JJBA "really" starts to become JJBA, rather than Fabulous Fist of the North Star.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on November 26, 2012, 04:10:12 PM
Episode 8

Muda Muda Muda MUDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!  It looks like we already got setup for one of the scenes from the JJBA movie and I guess it is Josef Joestar who is up next as the "JoJo?"  Admittedly, I would have liked the pace to have slown down a tad since it would have made things like Zeppelli's death more impactful.  On the other hand, the energy of this show keeps what otherwise might have been a completely underwhelming pair of episodes into something fun and epic.  Really, when the seiyuu of a show like this clearly love what they are doing, it shows.

Not only that, the whole thing with the Hamon/Ripple makes for some really cool strategic elements that I don't normally seen in Shonen fare.  Too bad it gets canned for Stands which isn't necessarily a horrible thing.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: leokiko. on November 26, 2012, 06:53:05 PM
A minor spoiler: The next Jojo is in NYC.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: shiijin on November 26, 2012, 08:49:17 PM
8: i've fallen in love with the jojo universe.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: SQA on November 27, 2012, 01:59:39 AM
8: i've fallen in love with the jojo universe.

You might want to hold that opinion until the next arc starts.  While I haven't read the manga, the "end" of this arc is one for the ages.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Hokuto_Spirit on November 27, 2012, 11:40:06 AM
A minor spoiler: The next Jojo is in NYC.
But only for the first few chapters, and he is also a Brit. If you want your US Jojo, you will have to wait for part 6 & 7.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: fluffybunnyboy on December 01, 2012, 02:29:43 PM
Episode 8

Muda Muda Muda MUDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!  It looks like we already got setup for one of the scenes from the JJBA movie and I guess it is Josef Joestar who is up next as the "JoJo?"  Admittedly, I would have liked the pace to have slown down a tad since it would have made things like Zeppelli's death more impactful.  On the other hand, the energy of this show keeps what otherwise might have been a completely underwhelming pair of episodes into something fun and epic.  Really, when the seiyuu of a show like this clearly love what they are doing, it shows.

Not only that, the whole thing with the Hamon/Ripple makes for some really cool strategic elements that I don't normally seen in Shonen fare.  Too bad it gets canned for Stands which isn't necessarily a horrible thing.
It's not just the seiyuu; this entire show seems like a labor of love, judging from the artwork and music as well. One of the advantages of Jojo being a 25-year-old series is that the people making this show more than likely read the manga growing up, and so they both have respect the source material and know how to play upon its strengths - and boy, have they ever played upon its strengths here.

One of the coolest aspects of this show is the artistic license they take with the colors - including with those of the characters. I'm not sure how many of you here know this, but the original manga artist (Araki Hirohiko) has never truly set "official" colors for the characters - he colors them (http://obdpictures1.wikispaces.com/file/view/jotaropic.jpg/370083672/jotaropic.jpg) differently (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120803011407/jjba/images/c/cf/Jotarokujo2.png) all (http://api.ning.com/files/DnpGXQQOX4Sq9ZxKspmmRjQRZ3rX5MlOqK6uOqy5*6ZqwheS-hplypQzEPbYEeAPsfQNWF6YdOASefy4nPF3RA__/KujoJotaro.jpg?width=420&height=600) the (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/71700/2441213-543142_539290_jk001__2__super_super.jpg) time (http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm143/neko_charlotte/JoJos/Jotaro_Kujo20.jpg). So in the show, the artists decided to play with the characters' outfit and hair colors (http://i49.tinypic.com/2porsis.png), often times to either fit in well with the scenery (http://www.capsulecomputers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/jojo-2-600x337.jpg), match the current mood (http://i49.tinypic.com/2lu57gj.png), or make them stand out against the background (http://i46.tinypic.com/1248pye.png). Again, you can just tell how much love is being poured into this show. It's simply wonderful.

I don't think that Jojo fans could have asked for a better adaptation.

But only for the first few chapters, and he is also a Brit. If you want your US Jojo, you will have to wait for part 6 & 7.
Well, technically, Joseph becomes an American citizen later. =P
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: hyperknees91 on December 01, 2012, 04:19:20 PM
I will ask...will it ever be possible for a character to surpass speedwagon in terms of manliness?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: fluffybunnyboy on December 02, 2012, 12:25:49 AM
I don't feel like Speedwagon is very manly, but he is a real bro to the Joestar bloodline. =)
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Shinmaru on December 08, 2012, 12:36:39 PM
oh my god JoJo is the best anime

This whole episode exceeded expectations, and that's WITH a bunch of people on Twitter yakking about how "Battle Tendency" is WAY better than "Phantom Blood." I am going to love this arc.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Clicking on December 09, 2012, 05:38:31 PM
My god, this show is just too good. Joeseph Joestar is an absolutely magnetic personality, and I'm already extremely tempted to say that I like him even more than his grandfather, Jonathan. Bring on the next OP!
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on December 10, 2012, 01:35:14 AM
Episode 11

One episode in the new arc and the younger version of Joseph Joestar is far more fabulous then his elderly one in the OVAs.  Honestly, I don't know if I will be able to handle the awesomeness of Battle Tendency.  Joseph Joestar may very well turn out to be the manliest anime character I will have ever seen.  At the sametime, I don't know if the new villian turns out to be just as or even more magnificent then Dio.   But, if he somehow turns out godlier then Dio then I don't know how I will react, much less know what to say.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on December 10, 2012, 03:34:36 PM
Joseph Jostar is going to show us all why he's from the one they called the greatest generation.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: hyperknees91 on December 14, 2012, 07:43:29 PM
10: Best introduction to a character ever...no words need to describe this series.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Major Tom on December 15, 2012, 03:52:00 AM
And just where did he get that tommy gun?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: hyperknees91 on December 15, 2012, 10:25:48 AM
My guess is he stole it from one of the thugs at the restaurant earlier...but your guess is as good as mine.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Hokuto_Spirit on December 15, 2012, 12:41:45 PM
I think what Major Tom meant was where did he hide the Tommy to pull it out like that. But there is no answer; Joseph is all about ludicrous asspulls masquerading as genius plans.

11: The new op is too smooth. Stronheim's va is amazing.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on December 20, 2012, 04:14:24 PM
All I ever needed in order to confirm that Joseph Joestar is the greatest (and fabulous) protagonist ever:

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/demonhitokiri/Untitled_zps3e4b788d.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/demonhitokiri/Untitled1_zps51f0516a.jpg)
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: hyperknees91 on December 21, 2012, 10:32:03 PM
11: Most awesome show of the year. Joseph is just too damn good.

That new opening is pretty sick too.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Hokuto_Spirit on December 24, 2012, 01:08:19 PM
Did they really just play the opening chord to "Owner of a Lonely Heart" after Joseph's reveal?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on December 24, 2012, 06:59:04 PM
Episode 12

If the cast of seiyuu for this anime is not nominated as a candidate for Best of the Year then I lost what little faith I had in an anime fan's ability to discern what is great and what sucks balls.  (Granted, I would say that they would win easily if nominated.)  Speedwagon, Stroheim, and Joseph are just too damn good for me to handle in one episode.  The energy in this show is just amazing and Joseph's shenanigans with the Hamon is fabulous to the point where my brain might explode from being unable to handle this level of awesomeness.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Major Tom on December 28, 2012, 05:31:09 AM
And suddenly, NAZIS!  And SCIENCE!  NAZI SCIENCE! 

I don't think this show has a top to go over, and it is glorious.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Shinmaru on January 07, 2013, 03:21:53 PM
In case you forgot JoJo is the frontrunner for 2013 anime of the year ...


anime of the year, all years
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on January 07, 2013, 05:39:28 PM
Man I'm so glad this shows back on again.  Like literally the only show where the male lead is allowed to be awesome on his own terms and it not come across as him being totally god-modding and where a whole lot of tears don't have to preclude the crowning moments of awesome.  Joseph just uses craftiness, analysis of the situation, the opponents stubborn love of underestimating him and is just plain genre savvy enough to work his way out of seemingly dead end situations.

As great as 2012 had been in terms of variety I don't think it would have been quite the same without this show.  It's such a breather and there really hasn't been anything else on TV quite like it since Yasuhiro Imagawa's take on Shin Mazinger: Chapter of Z.  You just don't get the male lead that's brimming with confidence from the get go like this much anymore in todays seemingly Light Novel trope dependent TV anime scene.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: thanosmat on January 09, 2013, 09:48:40 AM
it's a shame that this topic don't have much movement. Jojo, anime of the year (2012 or 2013)
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: RyuKyotei on January 09, 2013, 11:00:14 AM
I don't think this anime is much of a thinking anime.  It's not like Psycho Pass or Shinsekai Yori.  Those are anime where you really think and try to figure out the mystery of it all.

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is a show where you just watch it and enjoy the nature of it all.  It doesn't take itself seriously at all, allowing you to just have fun.  I mean, you can discuss the nature of the characters, but after you see a fight between a nazi, a man that feeds on vampires born from a pillar, and JoJo, there's not too much to discuss.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: SQA on January 09, 2013, 10:28:20 PM
It's Jojo.  How much is there to talk about but going "Ah, DAMN!" a few times?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Fumoffu!! on February 16, 2013, 01:51:51 PM
When Stronhiem revealed the gun in his torso.....

That made me laugh for a solid minute. Oh my gosh.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Lupin the 3rd on April 06, 2013, 11:59:35 AM
So did anybody finish this show?  I stuck with it to the end, and I have to say I was satisfied (I Can't wait for part 3!)

Overall the show was just mindless fun, I'm not a big fan of Shonen Jump, but this show was very entertaining from beginning to end.  The creators knew what they got themselves into when doing this show, and all did a fantastic job, for the source material they had, they did a fine job.  It's not the greatest anime to come out in the last 5 years, but surely one of the most fun I've had in a while.

A very strong 8/10 for me.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Fumoffu!! on April 06, 2013, 01:13:21 PM
I finished the show, and let's see if I can find the right word....

To sum up Jojo's Bizarre adventure part 2 with one word:
FABULOUS!!!!!

Overall, this series was really really good. Considering the budget, the studio executed this so well, it's the most enjoyable over the top shounens I've seen, and I loved watching it. It was a barrel of fun right until the very end.

I am looking forward to next season, because it looks like someone is going to be making a reappearance!

Between an 8 or 7 out of 10, **** it, you can have the 8 Jojo, just take it.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: hyperknees91 on April 06, 2013, 01:25:21 PM
Welp Jojo has officially earned itself the status of best adapted shounen anime ever now.

No filler, no crap dragging out, no pacing issues....It's been a long time since I first watched DBZ but I never thought this would be possible.

So basically this and Hunter x Hunter are now the kings of shounen adaption hah.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: The Big Guy on April 06, 2013, 01:41:59 PM
That was amazing!!! 8/10 as well.

Hopefully we'll get Part 3 this summer, because it is going to suck to not be able to put on a new episode of Jojo every week.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Lupin the 3rd on April 06, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
I do wonder if part 3 will take at least 26 episodes to adapt because of it's length.  Do you think they will adapt more Jojo after part 3?  I honestly never read past 3, does it get even better or worse?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Fumoffu!! on April 06, 2013, 05:28:11 PM
Actually, now I think, it's over.

A moment to remember the shows that, for half a year, have provided us with decent entertainment, with which I've been able to look forward to every week.

Shinsekai Yori, Pyscho Pass, Zetsuen no Tempest, and Jojo, thank you for giving me a fantastic viewing experience this past half year.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Shinmaru on April 08, 2013, 11:02:39 PM
I will be reviewing JoJo later, but basically this is my anime of the year so far, and it's going to take something damn great to knock it off the top. What a show.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: thanosmat on October 15, 2013, 03:50:51 AM
It seems that the new season was announced in WSJ.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on April 04, 2014, 12:46:13 PM
27:

mfw (http://i2.minus.com/jSWHcXZQ0tbjq.jpg)
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Shinmaru on April 04, 2014, 02:10:00 PM
shokotan too strong
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on April 04, 2014, 04:15:49 PM
27:
JoJo definitely has enough cheese to feed a third-world country.

And yes, I have heard of ZA WARULDO!!!
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: hyperknees91 on April 05, 2014, 04:18:13 AM
27: Get hype all over again.

Most important plot element http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/047/c/0/Jotaro_Kujo_by_OrneryAmerican.jpg
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on April 05, 2014, 11:25:31 AM
27:

Wow. I'm going to go finish the first season, because this was interesting.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Kiniest on April 05, 2014, 03:34:41 PM
27: Interesting. But Jotaro isn't quite as fun to watch as Dio or Joseph. Let's hope we get some good GAR in this.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on April 05, 2014, 08:04:08 PM
S2 Episode 1

MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!  Best start of the new anime season thus far, especially due to seeing Star Platinum in action.  Jotaro will never be the most interesting protagonist in the franchise.  But, this does not matter since this is going to be another fun as ****ing hell ride.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Redgrave on April 06, 2014, 05:13:02 AM
Jotaro is just annoying to be honest Oh well, at least Dio is here. Still, this first episode is better than what i was expecting.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on April 06, 2014, 04:45:49 PM
1-26:

Swagmaster JoJo too classy.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on April 06, 2014, 09:37:26 PM
1-26:

Swagmaster JoJo too classy.
that was fast
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on April 06, 2014, 11:59:12 PM
I couldn't help myself
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: hyperknees91 on April 07, 2014, 05:31:25 AM
Can't resist the jojo, he's just too swagalicious.

I'm thinking David Production should do something like remake Fist of the north star after this as they obviously know how to portray hammyness better then any other anime studio.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Pebble on April 08, 2014, 03:15:29 PM
1-26:

Cars is such a ****ing idiot.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on April 12, 2014, 10:38:42 AM
S2 Episode 2

Good lord, that overly Manly and FABULOUS OP!  I thought the second OP from the first season was spectacular.  The fact that it got topped is just amazing.  As for the episode itself, there is only one thing to say: ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA!  ORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Oh, and Heirophant Green too.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: hyperknees91 on April 12, 2014, 11:10:34 AM
28: Jotaro showing off that he's a big tsundere is always amusing. Also Joseph still being the quirky fool we knew him for.

Gotta love the Star Platinum smackdown and dat OP.

Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Funky Dealer on April 13, 2014, 10:46:11 PM
1-2:

It's been a while since I read the earlier chapters of Part 3, so I have to wonder. How close was Kakyoin from getting his head burst open there? And while the OP animation is nice, that complete lack of an ED is kinda glaring.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Pebble on April 14, 2014, 12:40:19 AM
27:

I was always of the opinion that Dio was best overmuscled caricature of himself. Glad to see him back.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on April 18, 2014, 12:08:36 PM
29:

Aeee-o aeeeeeeee-o. Having an eighties song like "Walk like an Egyptian" is a great capper to a series about a journey to Egypt set in the eighties.


Actual episode it self was a bit slow, but bizarre action will pick up once again next week
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on April 18, 2014, 01:47:18 PM
S2 Episode 2

Good lord, that overly Manly and FABULOUS OP!  I thought the second OP from the first season was spectacular.  The fact that it got topped is just amazing.  As for the episode itself, there is only one thing to say: ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA!  ORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Oh, and Heirophant Green too.

Believe it or not the opening was actually done by Namco Bandai games who seem to be getting more and more involved in everything these days and who are pretty much masters of over the top and manly.  Watch any clip from any recent super robot wars game if you don't believe me.   Even the chicks are manly in them.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Shadowmage on April 18, 2014, 05:43:35 PM
3

It's impressive how much the art quality has improved.  The amount of line art packed into each character is kind of insane and it really captures some of the extravagance of the manga.  The only way I can think of David Production pulling this off is that they rotoscoped the models used in the OP.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on April 18, 2014, 06:41:16 PM
Episode 3

I am not sure what to make of the ED since YES' "Roundabout" would have been nice to retain.  On the other hand, I was somehow hoping for something like an Ozzy Osbourne song like "Bark of the Moon" to be the actual ED.  Oh, well since at least the thematics of "Walk Like an Egyptian" does fit.  A setup episode for the next adventure which the OVA only briefly mentioned.  Next episode: Polnareff!

S2 Episode 2

Good lord, that overly Manly and FABULOUS OP!  I thought the second OP from the first season was spectacular.  The fact that it got topped is just amazing.  As for the episode itself, there is only one thing to say: ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA! ORA!  ORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Oh, and Heirophant Green too.

Believe it or not the opening was actually done by Namco Bandai games who seem to be getting more and more involved in everything these days and who are pretty much masters of over the top and manly.  Watch any clip from any recent super robot wars game if you don't believe me.   Even the chicks are manly in them.

Really?  That is interesting since I did not know that.  In fact, SRW is the game that single handedly made Zeorymer cool as hell and at least they let VOTOMS have some part of the action.  So, I do actually know about those games since I have seen lots of clips from them on Youtube.  Good stuff though.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on April 18, 2014, 07:01:27 PM
29:
"Walk like an Egyptian" looks like it will fit this season like a glove.

Also, I'd totally watch a sitcom involving the Joestars.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: hyperknees91 on April 19, 2014, 09:26:13 AM
29:

Gotta love that joestar family bonding time. It's funny how when I checked out a few scenes from the old version, they made everything dead serious all the time and missed out on all the charm.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on April 20, 2014, 04:51:37 AM
2-3:

This is really intense, and really entertaining. This new JoJo is a kind of tsundere I can respect; the fiercely manly kind. It's also telling that his Stand is so boyish and innocent, almost womanly (somewhere out there, I guarantee there is a stripper with the stage name Star Platinum). He's probably still that sweet kid deep down. The newfound mystery around Dio suits him perfectly, and I find myself liking even more than in Phantom Blood. They've also captured that strange (from a straight male point of view) sensuality Avdol talks about; everything about his body, from his voice to his rippling yet lithe muscles, to the fact that it's actually Jonathan's body is both repulsive and enthralling. Or at least that's how I feel.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on April 25, 2014, 10:57:41 AM
30:
Remember guys. In the Jojo world, that level of volume is still considered a whisper. I lol'd at Avdol's confused expression watching Jotaro and Kakiyoin woo the ladies too. Also, totally knew the old man was the Stand user.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on April 25, 2014, 01:04:07 PM
30:

Man the censorship is pretty goofy. Anyhow, the best character has arrived
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on April 25, 2014, 07:08:24 PM
Episode 4

They made it really obvious that the old man was the Stand user.  On the other hand, the battle was still interesting enough with some humor on the side.  Still, it's Polnareff time!  The OVA could have never captured the dude's personality and charm enough.  This show is definitely going to nail it by a landslide.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Shadowmage on April 26, 2014, 05:07:28 PM
4

I suppose this is about the time where I'm grateful I never saw the old OVAs.  Everything is brand new to me, so bring on more of the manliness and insanity.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on April 27, 2014, 03:46:54 AM
4:

A bit less exciting than previous episodes, but still very decent.

I find it interesting that Dio is suddenly bedding so many women. This week it even seems that his escapades have escalated, with a foursome (while the old lady watches!?!?). Perhaps he's making up for lost time spent at the bottom of the sea, but I think it might be that he craves adoration and the power of domination, but doesn't want to publicly exercise either just yet. 
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on April 27, 2014, 07:16:44 AM
A bit late to commenting on this season.  Man this show hasn't lost it's flare for the overdramatic at all.  I like the old man stand user just being completely crazy and how Jotaro won't hesitate to biff groupie women out of the way if they're being too annoying.  It's also kind of amusing how all the women in this show really do just act like annoying love struck damsels.  As for Jotaro he's definitely the least gentlemanly of all the Jojo's so far, but he clearly loves his mother in the long run.  I also like how massive he and his posse are compared to the average person.  Like every major player continues to just be ripped in this franchise.  I also have to wonder if they'll really go through the whole tarot by the time the shows done.  It's been 4 episodes and we've already seen what like 6 of them so it's entirely possible in a 24 episode series at the pace they're going to hit up all 22 major arcana.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: SQA on April 27, 2014, 04:22:15 PM
They might make a 3rd cour, with a split between 2 & 3, per some of the manga readers.  They're in no big hurry at the moment, and they have 16 manga volumes to cover.  At the current rate, they're going to come up quite short.  So there might be 39 episodes by the end of Stardust Crusaders.

And, yeah, you always know when a character is important: they look like they're doing weekly 'roid cycles.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on May 02, 2014, 08:17:51 PM
Episode 5

Fantastic battle with a humourous ending courtesy of Polnareff.  The OVA definitely did not fully capture the awesomeness of Silver Chariot nor Polnareff's quirkiness. Now, I wonder how they will handle Iggy when he makes his first appearance.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on May 02, 2014, 08:32:13 PM
5:

(http://i.imgur.com/m9PL9xy.png)
eat your heart out Smooth Criminal Michael Jackson
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on May 05, 2014, 09:36:00 PM
5: I appreciated Polnareff's literal burning chivalry coming through there at the end.  I figured they could find a way to work with this guy as he seemed pretty honorable and like he was just doing a job.  Figures he'd turn out to be the Rei (Hokuto no Ken) of this show too and was just look for his sisters killer before being brainwashed by Dio.  Also good to see the Speedwagon foundation is still around after all these years to be bros for the Joestar family.  Speedwagon's man love for that family burns strong even long after his death.  Also I have to say I'm loving the running gag of random women schmoozing up to Jotaro and him just telling them to piss off or even biffing them out of the way only for a comrade to compliment them instead.  It's such a bizarre gag and clearly a leftover from a much different era of Manga, but hey it's better than more spontaneous manzai routines like in just about every other show.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on May 09, 2014, 06:37:50 PM
Episode 6

So, even Jotaro can pull a (young) Joseph with his words at too.  Speaking of which, I would like to see Joseph pull off some tricks with the Hamon soon since I do indeed miss that.  Good episode that shows that Jotaro can win with a bit of his own cleverness too.  Next episode does look rather interesting though.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on May 09, 2014, 07:15:08 PM
6:

Girl reveals her gender, instantly grows large muscles.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on May 16, 2014, 02:46:40 PM
7:

JoJo I must insist that all children keep their clothes firmly upon their bodies at all times.

Other than that, pretty good episode.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on May 16, 2014, 07:13:06 PM
Episode 7

That opening dialogue with Dio was actually pretty nice since it shows that his character evolved a bit.  On the other hand, that Stand was actually pretty cool and creative.  Although, the episode was pretty creepy with the pedo ape since that was not overly comfortable to watch.  Still, a good episode and I am only going to guess other Stand users like D'arby and Vanilla Ice come up way later.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on May 16, 2014, 07:49:29 PM
Episode 7

That opening dialogue with Dio was actually pretty nice since it shows that his character evolved a bit.  On the other hand, that Stand was actually pretty cool and creative.  Although, the episode was pretty creepy with the pedo ape since that was not overly comfortable to watch.  Still, a good episode and I am only going to guess other Stand users like D'arby and Vanilla Ice come up way later.

The 90s OVAs covered stuff from the back half of Stardust Crusaders, so I wouldn't expect to see that content covered within these 1st 24 episodes
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Pebble on May 21, 2014, 12:06:48 PM
2-6:

Yep, Jojo is still allergic to:
-Sanity.
-Good fights.
-Female characters that can win fights.
-Natural-feeling badassery, which can be interpreted to mean proper badassery. Contrast with Jojo badassery, which refers to badassery derived by Jojo winning fights we already know Jojo will win.
-Consequences that have consequence.
-Enemies that feel remotely dangerous.
-The realization that their surprises all feel so safe, because they're all so similar, and so inconsequential, because the show and its predecessor average such high amounts of insanity and plot-convenient rule-amnesia.

I find that the only thing that deviates in this show is Gen II Jojo, because he's old.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: thanosmat on May 21, 2014, 04:24:19 PM
Jojo Part 3 is the most standard shounen of the all parts.

Part 4 onwards, Jojo deviates from shounen conventions more and more. I consider that part 5-8 is seinen instead.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Fumoffu!! on May 22, 2014, 06:29:38 AM
Yeh, I have to say that I am really disappointed with this new season of Jojo so far, it just lacks the fabulouslessness of Battle Tendency, and the current Jojo is so boring. Joseph was such a likable and cool character, and he was so unique.

I really hope this picks up.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on May 22, 2014, 01:16:05 PM
I actually much prefer this season so far to either of the previous ones. Both had the unfortunate tendency to slow to a snail's pace, and sometimes the over-the-topness snapped and became a sort of strained desperation to amp things up (I'm looking at you, Cars). Stardust Crusaders has so far done things in a more measured fashion, and kept the over-the-topness for select moments, which I think has much greater impact.

As for Jotaro, I like him and Joseph about equally, and both much more than Jonathan. Joseph was delightfully off-kilter, warm, and funny; Jotaro isn't as fun, but everything from his voice to his mannerisms to his attire oozes manly badassery. Generally, I'm more excited to see Jotaro fight, but outside of fighting Joseph was more entertaining. Jonathan was basically a nice guy.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: thanosmat on May 22, 2014, 03:34:15 PM
Stardust Crusader is all about the party, not the Jojo (Jotaro in this case).

In previous parts, Jojo win almost every fight alone and the others are spectators. Here the group has more personality and interactions with each other.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on May 23, 2014, 02:25:00 PM
7:
Well that was disturbing and hilarious. In other words, disturbingly hilarious.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on May 23, 2014, 05:54:35 PM
7:

Man, those injuries made me wince.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on May 23, 2014, 08:02:31 PM
Episode 7

By far the most brutal of JoJo episodes I have seen with Ebony Devil's insanity.  Honestly, I have really liked the last two Stand-Users since they have brought out some entertaining stuff.  Although, I really do miss Joseph's smart ass lines in Battle Tendency since they just made everything that much more fun.  One of my favorites:  "You know, I understand if it was like, the love of my life or something like that.  But, why the **** would I fight for that ugly-ass bitch, you dumbass?"  It is immature as hell, but I still love that line and it still makes me laugh a lot.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Shinmaru on May 24, 2014, 08:04:51 AM
This is the part where I actually started to dig Stardust Crusaders. It's the first decent non-comedy battle of the series, because it actually feels like the hero is in some danger and there's some legit struggle rather than instant ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA victory. The conclusion is a bit contrived, but it's a decent use of the surroundings to get the upper hand. Most battles unfold like this from here on out; it's definitely for the better, because Battle Tendency pulled off spectacle battles mainly due to Joseph's charisma. Jotaro and the others (even old man Joseph :p) just aren't that type of character. I personally prefer this type of battle, anyway, which is why I like Stardust Crusaders more than Battle Tendency.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on May 26, 2014, 07:07:22 PM
7:  Just when I thought this show couldn't get any manly gayer you've got Jotaro wandering around a vacant ship with his crew of manly men and a bunch of sailors and then fighting a perverted Orangutan.  All we needed is for Mr. Gold and Mr. Silver to show up and start gyrating around and the God Hand vibes would have been complete.  I wasn't expecting the ship to be the stand though, that was definitely a neat twist.  Also Jotaro would be the second stoic character this season to stand next to a mostly naked girl without even so much as acknowledging it in any way and I'm not sure if that says something more or not.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on May 26, 2014, 08:58:15 PM
Uh guys we buggered the episode count
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on May 30, 2014, 10:24:07 AM
9:

The licking, it haunts me at night. I hear it all the time. It consumes me.

LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO-LERO
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on May 30, 2014, 03:34:54 PM
9:

Centerfold? C'mon mang

Asides from that, great episode
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on May 30, 2014, 05:45:53 PM
Episode 9

The ending is what made this episode since I had a good laugh out of it.  Not to mention, I liked the reveal of the next few Stand users or so since I am definitely excited to see them in action. 
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on June 03, 2014, 12:52:20 PM
9:  These stand users just keep getting creepier and weirder.  I like how the whole Kakyoin betrayal thing was a total red herring and he was just chilling at the pool the whole time.  Centerfold also kind of looks like what I imagine Super Macho Man from punch out being in his younger years.  His stand is also just as context sensitive as the last one owing to the whole temperance thing and seems to respond to any sort of aggression with an equal amount of force.  For this reason I kind of found this episode a bit redundant after the last one with the Devil gimmick being about karma and payback.  I still kind of wish they'd just hurry up and get to Egypt already and start fighting Dio but I guess it's still a pretty fun show.  I like how the fights are getting progressively more gritty and bloody too.  How did that guy Centerfold was back breaking even survive that lol...anyway off to India now I guess.  What are the odds they get attacked by another stand user on the train?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: The_Outsider on June 03, 2014, 02:03:03 PM
Does Yellow Temperance allow him to use the Stands of people he is impersonating? 0.0

Cause I swear he used Hierophant Green while pretending to be Kakyoin...
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on June 03, 2014, 03:58:28 PM
9:  These stand users just keep getting creepier and weirder.  I like how the whole Kakyoin betrayal thing was a total red herring and he was just chilling at the pool the whole time.  Centerfold also kind of looks like what I imagine Super Macho Man from punch out being in his younger years.  His stand is also just as context sensitive as the last one owing to the whole temperance thing and seems to respond to any sort of aggression with an equal amount of force.  For this reason I kind of found this episode a bit redundant after the last one with the Devil gimmick being about karma and payback.  I still kind of wish they'd just hurry up and get to Egypt already and start fighting Dio but I guess it's still a pretty fun show.  I like how the fights are getting progressively more gritty and bloody too.  How did that guy Centerfold was back breaking even survive that lol...anyway off to India now I guess.  What are the odds they get attacked by another stand user on the train?

Thr dude who used the back-breaker wasn't Centerfold. Centerfold is the name the official subs use for the dude who killed Polnareff's sister (it's actually J. Geil though weird name change, I know).
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on June 06, 2014, 12:46:49 PM
10:

I see the lack of fanfare and the refusal to draw things out, and suddenly I'm reminded of Attack on Titan. Isn't this based on a really old manga? Where did all the writers with such enormous balls go?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on June 06, 2014, 12:54:13 PM
10:

I see the lack of fanfare and the refusal to draw things out, and suddenly I'm reminded of Attack on Titan. Isn't this based on a really old manga? Where did all the writers with such enormous balls go?

Not quite getting what you're trying to say, mind going into a bit more detail?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on June 06, 2014, 12:56:55 PM
10:

The scene with Polpol and Hol Horse chatting it up dragged a little, but that scene with the Pig toilet got me.

Also don't really care much for Avdol, he's always been the most boring Stardust Crusader so I don't mind seeing him go
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on June 06, 2014, 02:00:31 PM
10:
I had already been spoiled that Avdol was gonna die, but I didn't know it would happen so early. Now who will provide commentary?!
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on June 06, 2014, 02:12:51 PM
Not quite getting what you're trying to say, mind going into a bit more detail?

*In a conspiratorial voice* I was trying to avoid spoiler tags.

Oh well, I liked that Avdol died so quickly and in such a mundane fashion. No dying speeches or heroism; the mangaka got that out of the way BEFORE having him killed. It's a sobering way to write, and deepens immersion instead of breaking it. Attack on Titan dealt almost exclusively in such deaths.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on June 06, 2014, 05:19:29 PM
Episode 10

Hol Horse finally makes his appearance and I certainly remember him from the 90's OVA.  The one thing I liked this episode is how it handled Avdol's death better then the 1rst series did with Zepelli.  I do like where this is going with the upcoming battle since it looks like it will be really good.  Although, the whole pig in the toilet joke wasn't that hilarious to me.  Outlandish and crazy as hell.  But, bleh on the humor side for me.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on June 07, 2014, 11:15:28 AM
10:  This was probably the first really good episode since before everyone left Japan.  With the arrival of this Hol Horse guy hopefully we're done with the Stand User of the week formula and can get a recurring antagonist. 
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on June 12, 2014, 10:23:50 PM
So I recently got a look at the lyrics for the OP, and realized that there's an incredibly glaring bit of engrish that cannot be unheard, and makes the main chorus unintentionally hilarious.

Before you click, remember: The truth is a beautiful and terrible thing.

Stand Up! Stand Up! Stand Up! *Japanese*
All Right Now! All Right Now! All Right Now! *Japanese*
Break You Down! Break You Down! Break You Down! *Japanese*

11:

You know the Guardian of Kings card in Hearthstone? How he rumbles, 'VENGEANCE.' in a badass Blizzard baritone?

Yeah that noise popped into my head at the perfect time while I was watching this. GJ Polnareff. 
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on June 13, 2014, 02:23:52 PM
11:

J. Geil's creepiness was much welcome on this Friday the 13th
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on June 13, 2014, 03:10:01 PM
Episode 11

I liked the way that Polnareff got his revenge and it was a rather smart battle too.  Even though Stardust Crusaders does not have (Young) Joseph's flair behind them, they are quite satisfying in their own way.  Speaking of which, next episode has Joseph facing an opponent and I hope to see some tricks with the Hamon.  That and a pretty good laugh too.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on June 13, 2014, 04:22:44 PM
11:
She was a stand user all along. Have to say, I did not see that coming.

Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on June 14, 2014, 02:30:58 PM
11:  Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, the only show that can make kicking sand in a kids eye seem like a heroic act.  So Polnareff finally gets revenge for dearest imouto proving that some story arcs really are timeless in more ways than one.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: The_Outsider on June 14, 2014, 02:50:17 PM
11: Hol Horse himself was probably unaware that she was a Stand user. Speaking of him - it was rather ironic that he favours being "#2" rather than "#1" while his Stand is "The Emperor".

The last bit was the creepiest thing I have seen in a while.

EDIT: Did Dio/old hag mention sending "The Empress" after the group?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on June 14, 2014, 08:00:30 PM
11: Hol Horse himself was probably unaware that she was a Stand user. Speaking of him - it was rather ironic that he favours being "#2" rather than "#1" while his Stand is "The Emperor".

The last bit was the creepiest thing I have seen in a while.

EDIT: Did Dio/old hag mention sending "The Empress" after the group?
yes
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on June 20, 2014, 10:19:24 AM
12:
This episode was pretty hilarious. And it gave Joseph his chance to really shine.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: thanosmat on June 20, 2014, 11:47:28 AM
4 cour confirmed for Stardust Crusaders. Non-split broadcast.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on June 20, 2014, 02:22:51 PM
12:

Boy was it a rush to hear OVERDRIVEEEE and YOUR NEXT LINE ISSSSS again. This episode was a great example of everything that makes JoJo unique; enemies that are simultaneously disturbing, hilarious, and disgusting, big manly men coming up with ridiculous plots to beat them, and tight male bonding. I had a great time.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on June 20, 2014, 07:40:52 PM
Episode 12

Joseph's still got it.  That is all that really matters.  Not only that, I do hope he gets to use the Hamon in a more meaningful way to victory.  Still, that was another unique Stand and the next one actually looks like it will be a car.  Now, that is going to be interesting.  Not only that, Polnareff striking out so bad was pretty damn funny too.

4 cour confirmed for Stardust Crusaders. Non-split broadcast.

If that is the actual case, then that definitely means more JoJo which makes me very happy.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Shadowmage on June 21, 2014, 09:03:32 PM
Holy crap, 4 cour.  Jojo's Bizarre Adventures must be doing gangbusters.  Good to see it still has such sway in the medium.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: The_Outsider on June 22, 2014, 05:56:44 AM
4 cour... So we are moving straight on to part 4 after 3 I assume?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: thanosmat on June 22, 2014, 09:07:23 AM
4 cour... So we are moving straight on to part 4 after 3 I assume?

No. Only Stardust Crusaders.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: The_Outsider on June 22, 2014, 10:18:24 AM
It's that long?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on June 22, 2014, 11:01:26 AM
It's that long?
yes
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: SQA on June 22, 2014, 03:04:20 PM
Part 4, apparently, isn't green-lit yet either.  Which makes a bit of sense.  They need to see how Stardust Crusaders does.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on June 27, 2014, 03:04:38 PM
13:

This is why you don't skip leg day
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on June 27, 2014, 03:14:32 PM
13:

I laughed out loud, what a massively entertaining ride. I was actually upset when JoJo's jacket was burned, but in the preview it's good as new, so I guess it's fine. The last couple of episodes have really raised the bar, it's a toss-up between this and Kawai for AotS.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on June 27, 2014, 05:02:36 PM
Episode 13

That was more entertaining then I thought it would be.  Plus, I really liked the reveal of Wheel of Fortune's user since that just made the episode.  At the same time, I hope this is the end for Anna since it is about time for her character to go.  I am excited for the next episode since the OVA did cover Enya and her Stand.  This does inherently point out that a lot of content was cut from the OVA since I think it skipped over to D'arby not too long afterwards.  Still, Enya's power is pretty damn sick and seeing it in a modern day JoJo anime makes it all the more better.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on June 27, 2014, 06:34:44 PM
13:
I actually found this episode more hilarious then the last one.

Favorite Line: "I won! Part 3 is over!"
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on June 28, 2014, 08:16:45 AM
13:

I laughed out loud, what a massively entertaining ride. I was actually upset when JoJo's jacket was burned, but in the preview it's good as new, so I guess it's fine. The last couple of episodes have really raised the bar, it's a toss-up between this and Kawai for AotS.

Jojo losing his jacket holds about as much weight as Kenshiro losing his shirt
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on July 02, 2014, 09:17:01 PM
13:  That was probably the most amusing episode of the show so far.  I loved it when everyone including even the Rie Kugimiya tag along girl was shitting on the ZZ guy for turning out to be a pathetic wimp.  This shows really coming back into it's own, though maybe it's just that I realize it's 52 episodes now and not 24 so there's plenty of time for just these wacky Stand User of the week episodes.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on July 04, 2014, 12:05:10 PM
14:
Well Araki really likes his horror movies.... And apparently Tom and Jerry.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on July 04, 2014, 06:34:40 PM
Episode 14

Definitely adapted better then in the OVA.  Not to mention, the music is good and it stood out more in this episode compared to others.  Justice is really going to look good and I can't wait to see the next episode.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on July 04, 2014, 07:09:23 PM
14:

The music that played in the hotel was interesting. It sounded like it was right out of an old-timey western movie.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on July 06, 2014, 08:37:17 AM
14:

(http://i.imgur.com/HrwQTwv.gif)
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on July 11, 2014, 05:59:20 PM
15:
Enyaba for most entertaining old lady in anime.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on July 11, 2014, 06:08:23 PM
15:

It's terrible of me, but everything in this episode was hilarious, from Polnareff licking the toilet to Enyaba almost stabbing her own eye out.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on July 12, 2014, 11:37:52 AM
Episode 15

The OVA version of this was nowhere as entertaining as this.  Especially, not with the portrayal of Enya's character since that got lost in translation.  But, not with today's JoJo which made me happy and made my day.  Of course, Hol Horse is still the opportunistic bastard at the end.  Gotta love him for that.  XD
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Kiniest on July 13, 2014, 11:44:18 AM
15:

Let Justice Be Done, Though Polnareff's Tongue Falls (Onto the Toilet)
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on July 18, 2014, 10:33:01 AM
16:
What a bastard...

I predict Jotaro Ora-ing Steely Dan into a bloody pulp next episode.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on July 18, 2014, 12:43:59 PM
16:

Dan of Steel indeed, walking off being defenestrated by Star Platinum like that. I don't think his stand transfers pain so much as it does allow him to share it.

Y'all ready for A Fantastic Voyage?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on July 18, 2014, 06:29:45 PM
Episode 16

There sure is going to be a lot of "Oh Nos!" and "Oh my Gods!" in the next episode.  Honestly, I am going to enjoy that since old Joseph makes it pretty damn funny.  That, and the Lovers Stand is a more interesting take on those characters with the power to redirect damage to their opponents after taking the initial blow.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on July 18, 2014, 09:50:45 PM
16:

This guy is so screwed. I can't even describe how screwed he is. JoJo is gonna 1v1 him IRL and hot dog man is going down. It is on like Donkey Kong, and Jotaro is gonna go apesh*t on his ass. I'm go buy popcorn in advance.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on July 25, 2014, 01:26:36 PM
17:

ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA

Yes I just mimed + yelled along with Star Platinum, and boy was it satisfying.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on July 25, 2014, 03:00:28 PM
17:
It was the "ORA!" heard around the world.

Also, "Motto!"
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on July 25, 2014, 05:27:49 PM
17:

This is like Walker Texas Ranger except instead of a roundhouse kick, the asshole has to deal with an angry punch ghost at the end.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on July 25, 2014, 06:27:32 PM
Episode 17

One poor bastard got totally and completely ORA'D in defeat.  One of the more fun ending to an anime episode I have seen in awhile.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on August 01, 2014, 02:50:42 PM
18:

I'm confused.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on August 01, 2014, 03:34:39 PM
Episode 18

That was by far the least entertaining episode of the series thus far.  Definitely felt like a throw away away episode.  At least the next episode seems more interesting.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on August 01, 2014, 05:12:28 PM
18:

Pretty funny gag episode

Also, it judging by the news, we probs won't see the "sixth star" until Winter
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on August 01, 2014, 05:42:25 PM
18:
Now that was hilariously anticlimactic.

Also Dat Episode preview! As a wise old man once said, "Ohhhhhhh SHIT!"
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on August 08, 2014, 05:15:36 PM
19:
And now Araki dips his hands into A Nightmare on Elm Street. I probably should have been creeped out, but I laughed out loud. This show is so damn entertaining.

But what the heck does Araki have against dogs?!
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on August 08, 2014, 09:55:01 PM
Episode 19

Can't blame the people who hate kids after this episode.  Lol.  XD  Anyways, that was a far more entertaining episode then the last one.  Gotta love how trippy the Death 13 dream scenario looks and everything.

19:
And now Araki dips his hands into A Nightmare on Elm Street. I probably should have been creeped out, but I laughed out loud. This show is so damn entertaining.

But what the heck does Araki have against dogs?!
In that case, they should play that one song that 80's band Dokken did for one of those films.  A George Lynch guitar solo paired with this anime would be amazing.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on August 08, 2014, 10:06:29 PM
19:  The stand user is a baby and Polnareff is retarded.  What else needs to be said.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on August 09, 2014, 03:32:02 AM
19:

Holy shit. That was freaky.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on August 15, 2014, 02:59:29 PM
Episode 20

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - The only anime where the protagonists make their enemies literally eat shit and it is a baby who gets that comeuppance.  All the while still seeming heroic too.  Not gonna lie, I found the end to Death 13's part pretty funny.  Next episode reminds me of a detail from the OVA I had completely forgotten about.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on August 15, 2014, 04:27:23 PM
20:
That Kakiyoin. When he gets revenge he does not mess around. Ba-dum-tss.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on August 15, 2014, 06:36:37 PM
20:

Death 13 just got sh!t on. Eat it, baby.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on August 21, 2014, 05:19:54 PM
20:  Amusing conclusion with Kakyoin getting to be the hero but what was up with his hair being silver there for a bit.  It wasn't just in the dream either but in a scene outside of it when he's explaining that he brought a stand into the dream and then all of a sudden its just back to normal with no explanation.  It just seems like an animator got his pallet confused with Polnareffs or something.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on August 21, 2014, 05:53:44 PM
Oh come on KS, this has happened multiple times already, both in Stardust Crusaders and previous arcs.

In JoJo, colors change for no reason aside from mad style points. I love it.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on August 21, 2014, 09:36:24 PM
Oh come on KS, this has happened multiple times already, both in Stardust Crusaders and previous arcs.

In JoJo, colors change for no reason aside from mad style points. I love it.

Yeah but usually it's some weird gradient and not a clear picture.  I have no real explanation for this one, where it came from and why it stopped when it did.  Not that it's a huge problem, just strange.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on August 22, 2014, 02:15:06 AM
I have all the answers you are seeking, KS.
 
Explanation: Swag.
Where it came from: Swagmart.
Why it stopped when it did:Super swaggalicious swagreasons.

But seriously, I take this in the same stride as all the other ridiculous things that happen in the fights. It's a flourish of the art style that makes a scene pop visually; makes sense to use it for big reveals or shocking moments. Kakyoin appearing is a great time for it.   
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on August 22, 2014, 12:36:31 PM
21:
All the time I couldn't help from thinking... Why the heck does Polnereff have a big picture of his sister and where does he keep it?!
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on August 22, 2014, 05:57:22 PM
Episode 21

This is the best genie in a lamp story ever due to the JoJo-licious touch.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on August 23, 2014, 11:43:29 AM
21:

This is something I've missed; that macabre touch of corruption to the weirdness. I'll always remember Dio making that mom eat her own baby.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on August 23, 2014, 04:45:34 PM
21:

This is something I've missed; that macabre touch of corruption to the weirdness. I'll always remember Dio making that mom eat her own baby.
it was this and not stuff like the killer dream clown mutilating dogs and crying eyeballs (with legs) into the mouths of his victims to keep them from screaming?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on August 23, 2014, 09:48:49 PM
Indeed. Death 13 was plenty weird and disturbing, but Dio has a way of maliciously perverting things and people, which for me puts him on another level. True horror is when disgusting things are happening not just to your body, but to who you are as a person. This is why I find things like flesh buds and him running around in Joseph's body delightful.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on August 29, 2014, 11:49:44 AM
22:

Last enemy was forced to eat poop, this one is forced to drink piss

This show
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on August 29, 2014, 06:30:22 PM
Episode 22

Dude definitely felt the phrase "Hell 2 U!"  If people thought young Joseph's arc was juvenile as hell, this arc ramps it up to another level of it's own.  The mangaka of this franchise must have felt like a kid or something while he wrote this stuff.  Not gonna lie, this episode did entertain me though.  On the other hand, Avdol being alive is not a surprise since he was still alive in the OVA.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on August 29, 2014, 09:50:55 PM
22:

OMG YES AVDOL IS THE MAN!
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on August 30, 2014, 12:10:35 PM
22:  So wait Avdol has just been in a coma or went back home or something?  Definitely was not expecting him to be alive in any case.  This show is getting even more insane somehow.  Time to ride the giant ass sub to Egypt.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: SQA on August 30, 2014, 04:09:43 PM
22:  So wait Avdol has just been in a coma or went back home or something?  Definitely was not expecting him to be alive in any case.  This show is getting even more insane somehow.  Time to ride the giant ass sub to Egypt.

We forget... this is Jojo.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on August 30, 2014, 07:13:11 PM
22:
Despite what seems like the most controversial fight in Part 3, I rather enjoyed these episodes. Luckily the emotional moments happened with Polnereff, because he's the only character where it would work. Felt sorry that he was the only one out of the loop, but I still laughed hard.

Also this show's Engrish.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on September 05, 2014, 10:49:43 AM
23:

This show's on a roll. I'm amazed the formula of 'enemy of the week' can still be so thrilling after seeing it so many times.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on September 05, 2014, 01:30:03 PM
23:

This show's on a roll. I'm amazed the formula of 'enemy of the week' can still be so thrilling after seeing it so many times.

Well it gets better
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on September 05, 2014, 02:49:58 PM
23:
At the rate this is going Jotaro will never be able to ride anything ever again.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on September 05, 2014, 05:31:59 PM
Episode 23

The name change from Midler to Rose was pretty damn lame.  The High Priestess seems like a pretty epic stand which in turn sets up an epic ending by Jotaro.  I wonder if they will show what Midler looks like since I heard she was never actually shown in the manga.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on September 05, 2014, 07:05:34 PM
Episode 23

The name change from Midler to Rose was pretty damn lame.  The High Priestess seems like a pretty epic stand which in turn sets up an epic ending by Jotaro.  I wonder if they will show what Midler looks like since I heard she was never actually shown in the manga.

Maybe they'll feature the design Araki gave her for the heritage of the future game
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on September 13, 2014, 11:40:53 AM
Episode 24/S1 (for Stardust Crusaders) Finale:

It is disappointing that they didn't show Midler.  On the other hand, Jotaro Ora'ing his way to victory was pretty damn epic to see.  Not only that, it was good to see Dio again and it looks like they will be bringing in Iggy.  Too bad the wait until next January is going to be feel so long.  Still, it will be worth it since this is one of the best series I have been following and it should be able to end strong.  Now the only thing is to guess what song(s) from what band(s) they might use.  If they still want a female-fronted band, the all girl band Phantom Blue would be perfect IMO.

On the other hand, Marty Friedman (ex-Megadeth) does reside in Japan and he apparently played guitar for the new Sailor Moon anime's OP.  It would be cool to see a guitar legend like himself perform in the next OP for this anime. 
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on September 14, 2014, 08:55:29 AM
24:

My guess for the next outtro is Egypt by Dio. Givn how DP surprised with something like Walk Like an Egyptian, this wouldn't be asking for too much amirite?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on January 09, 2015, 04:19:59 PM
Episode 25

I can't say I like the new OP song compared to the others.  That is especially with the new animation sequence since it begs for something more energetic and bombastic.  Although, I did like how they shouted "ORA ORA ORA" at the end of it.

Well, it starts off with a bang since we got Iggy into the fray and it is about time.  The battle with N'doul was one of the more memorable ones from the OVA that I watched a long time ago.  However, David Production has already topped this one and it is Jojo being awesome as usual.  One thing I didn't expect was the ED to be Last Train Home since that was far different from what I was expecting.  On the other hand, I was really hoping for something from a band like Dio, or Judas Priest, or something like that.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on January 09, 2015, 04:24:10 PM
1:
24:

My guess for the next outtro is Egypt by Dio. Givn how DP surprised with something like Walk Like an Egyptian, this wouldn't be asking for too much amirite?
Alas, twas not to be
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on January 09, 2015, 07:49:04 PM
25:
Well Iggy made quite an impression, at the expense of poor Polnareff's hair.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on January 10, 2015, 03:56:12 AM
25:

Great to see we're right where we left off. I've really missed JoJo's rollicking, macabre style.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on January 16, 2015, 01:13:11 PM
26:

It's so refreshing to see a dog that isn't essentially a mute, furry human. This dude behaves like an animal, while still being a likable character in his own right.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on January 16, 2015, 08:41:15 PM
Episode 26

Excellent finish to the battle that was better then the OVA version.  Not to mention, Iggy is fricking great and will finally have a chance to show why he is a real highlight.  The year of 2015 is a Jojo type of year indeed.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on January 23, 2015, 12:11:36 PM
27:

Props to JoJo's voice actor; sounding like a panicked imitation of his JoJo voice cannot have been easy to do.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on January 23, 2015, 02:24:02 PM
27:

Well this pretty much felt like a Jojo version of a Looney Toon's cartoon. I don't we'll ever hear Daisuke Ono have this much fun ever again. Also that Oingo Boingo outtro? DP really went above and beyond the call of duty here.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on January 23, 2015, 08:53:57 PM
Episode 27

Holy shit that was hilarious and amusing. You gotta love this anime for pulling off something that was pretty damn unique there.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on January 30, 2015, 08:07:26 PM
Episode 28

Polnareff has a pretty clever trump card that used for a pretty cool finish.  Although, Anubis is a pretty crazy stand that it is pretty damn awesome.  It certainly is a pretty manly stand.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on January 31, 2015, 01:46:42 PM
28:

I'm a bit confused. Is the sword both a stand user and a stand? Maybe the sheath is one and the sword the other? Is it just a stand and there's a master waiting somewhere?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on February 06, 2015, 01:21:20 PM
29:

You just never know what will happen on this show.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on February 06, 2015, 05:54:15 PM
Episode 29

One of the reasons why I love JJBA is because of how much fun the seiyuu have.  The over the top performance made me laugh since it was that infectious.  Damn I love this anime.  Also, Jotaro looks like he won't be a whole lot of things with that much less people at this rate. 
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on February 06, 2015, 07:15:23 PM
29:

Seeing Anubis meet his fate in a convoluted fashion made my day. Also yay sasuga
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on February 13, 2015, 09:24:11 PM
Episode 30

This episode was funny and I can't imagine how much more awesome the next one is going to be.  Mariah's stand is so simple, yet effective.  On the other hand, I just get the feeling that she is one lazy ass bitch and her stand reflects that.  Still, props to her making both Joseph and Avdol look like chumps in precarious situations.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on February 18, 2015, 10:27:28 PM
25-26:  Surprisingly late to start the Egypt Arc but it's off to a really great start.  That dog is a huge asshole though Jotaro seems to have become the first to put it in it's place.  The fight with the blind man was really neat the way it played out with him being really powerful and able to track people through sound though how it was able to get a helicopter flying across the desert I'm not really sure.  Avdol's idea could have worked but this guy was pretty logical, too bad for him he could have never predicted Jojo would throw the damn dog at him.  The manlove that the 9 disciples seem to have for Dio was pretty amusing and assures us at least 16 more episodes of these fights.  If the direction holds up like this it should be a treat.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on February 20, 2015, 11:56:27 AM
31:

This was the funniest thing I've seen all month. It's a mark of JoJo's originality that as the stakes ramp up, the comedy doesn't disappear. Far, far from it.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on February 20, 2015, 05:29:24 PM
Episode 31

One of the best follow-up episodes in JoJo ever.  That shit was too damn funny and the conclusion of it was great due to Joseph's cunning.  I have missed that a lot.  At one point, I thought he was going to bust out the Hamon to do something crazy to overcome Mariah's stand.  Didn't happen, but damn this episode was good and hilarious too.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on February 27, 2015, 02:54:47 PM
32:

OH GOD, WHAT IS GOING ON!?!??!
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on February 27, 2015, 08:03:08 PM
Episode 32

Suffice it to say, this arc of JoJo is crazier then Battle Tendency even though that one had a young Joseph Joestar.  Usually, the jokes in an episode like this with any other anime is lame garbage.  However, JoJo makes them balls out funny and I just can't stop laughing.  Not to mention, the execution is better too.  Well, even as a child Polnareff is a total dork and we all love him for that.  Lol.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on March 01, 2015, 04:04:06 PM
32:

Found the jokes this episode was banking on to be a bit on the stale side. Idk. I recall liking the resolution of these chapters so I'm sure I'll like next week's better.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on March 06, 2015, 05:45:25 PM
Episode 33

So, Jotaro was born to kick ass and this episode totally confirms it.  Too bad for Polnareff on striking out again.  Best thing is, next episode is going to have D'arby which was by far one of the better antagonists in the OVA version.  With this show's track record, this should have a far more spectacular finish.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on March 06, 2015, 08:15:24 PM
33:
Here's Allessi!!
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on March 13, 2015, 02:13:19 PM
34:
Betting your soul on a game of cards? It's time to Duel!! Wait... Wrong show.

Anyway, I can see why this fight is well regarded. It was actually quite tense.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on March 13, 2015, 04:58:32 PM
Episode 34

Perfect adaptation of the fight with D'arby thus far, which makes me happy.  The finish is definitely going to be great in the next episode since Jotaro shows he can play mind games.  Good.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on March 20, 2015, 02:28:43 PM
35:

The only way this could've been better is with the Kaiji OST
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on March 20, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
35:
That was one epic mental breakdown.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on March 20, 2015, 06:56:12 PM
Episode 35

Truly one of the greatest battles in the JJBA franchise.  It is one that I will never forget and this adaptation does it perfectly.  Good.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on March 20, 2015, 09:06:08 PM
35:

When I saw the black blob on JoJo's face, I started laughing because I thought they were making a joke about how insanely badass his poker face was.

Then I saw the cigarette and sighed.

Still an amazingly fun episode.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on March 27, 2015, 12:52:57 PM
36:

This show is too glorious for me. That ED.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on March 27, 2015, 05:42:00 PM
Episode 36

Those are some funny ass shenanigans.  Yes.  Episodes like this in this arc of JoJo are the best.  Yes.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on April 03, 2015, 12:13:58 PM
37:

First episode in a while that was actually a bit clumsy. Oh well.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on April 03, 2015, 12:47:35 PM
Such a pathetic send off for Hol Horse lol.

Comedic battles are over now. Expecting much brutal intensity from here on.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on April 03, 2015, 06:24:51 PM
37:
So Hol Horse is basically Team Rocket...
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on April 03, 2015, 09:57:55 PM
Episode 37

Sucks to be Hol Horse.  Lol.  The ending was fitting with Iggy tearing Boingo to shreds.  Speaking of which, we will finally get to see Iggy in action next episode. Can't wait for it.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on April 10, 2015, 06:21:19 PM
38:
This show is like the coolest thing
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on April 10, 2015, 08:37:02 PM
Episode 38

Pet Shop is easily one of the most badass villains in this series.  Little Pet Shop of horrors indeed.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on April 10, 2015, 10:36:03 PM
38:

I rather wish they hadn't had Iggy speak. It's a bit lazy.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on April 17, 2015, 11:32:13 AM
39:

That was honestly the worst dialogue I've ever seen in an anime. Nobody but 3-year-olds need to be told exactly what's happening on the screen, in every single scene. Overall, Iggy's arc has been a deep low point for the entire series.

Thankfully the show picked right up as they finally step inside Dio's manor. 
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on April 17, 2015, 02:45:34 PM
^

Dialogue was definitely a bit of a turn off, but besides that, the battle itself played out well and didn't rely on bullshit which makes it better then some fights in the 1st half.

They should've done this battle one episode though.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on April 18, 2015, 01:48:23 AM
Episode 39

Iggy is a pretty smart fighter.  Also, more D'arby action coming up?  Hell yeah, that is what I am talking about.  Not sure who will come after D'arby's brother since Vanilla Ice is the only villain who would be left afterwards.  (Other then Dio, of course).   Or, at least from what I can remember anyway.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on April 18, 2015, 07:03:40 PM
39:
For a second, I did think Iggy might not make it, but glad to see he pulled through (With one less leg though)

I also like the new piece of music that played D'Arby's entrance.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on April 24, 2015, 01:50:47 PM
40:

This game is technical as **** for something from the late 80s. Also I'm sad I'll never have Joseph as an annoying backseat gamer.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on April 24, 2015, 04:59:05 PM
Episode 40

More D'arby goodness which I will never say no to.  Good. 
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on April 26, 2015, 11:08:10 AM
40:
Good episode and all but my favorite moment was DIO's "Let's be friends."
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on May 01, 2015, 03:42:05 PM
41:
Good episode and all but my favorite moments were anything Joseph said or did.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on May 01, 2015, 03:46:10 PM
41:

lol Cool Ice
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on May 01, 2015, 07:54:22 PM
Episode 41

This anime is essentially genius in how it makes an episode about two dudes playing video games tense.  Like seriously, is there really any other anime that can pull off this sort of atmosphere over something like this?  This is going to have a really spectacular finish and someone is about to get ORA'ed to hell.  Good.

At the same time, the name change for Vanilla Ice is really lame. 
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on May 08, 2015, 01:46:27 PM
42:

mfw this episode
(http://i.imgur.com/n6zIFJn.gif)
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on May 08, 2015, 04:05:00 PM
42:

Engrish at its finest, men at their most fabulous.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on May 08, 2015, 04:07:34 PM
Episode 42

Ice Ice Baby.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on May 12, 2015, 01:03:37 AM
I just realized that Jotaro's hat has hair built into the back of it.

What?!??!?!
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on May 15, 2015, 10:21:26 AM
43:
Well, I see why the Vanilla Ice fight is so popular now...
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on May 15, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
43:

When this fight started, I was already thinking, yeah right. Now I'm not so sure. Just how big are deez nuts?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on May 15, 2015, 02:27:44 PM
43:

From a One-hit-wonder to a One-hit-murderer. Goddamn that was brutal, seeing a crazy dude slam his tree-trunk shins into a wounded Boston Terrier. Yeesh.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on May 15, 2015, 04:51:01 PM
Episode 43

I definitely don't remember seeing the scene where Vanilla Ice kicked the shit out of Iggy in the OVA.  But, damn that mother****er hates dogs more then any other character in JJBA that I have seen so far.  Still, this adaptation's version of the Vanilla Ice fight is superior to the OVAs.  It is a damn good one too.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on May 22, 2015, 04:44:15 PM
Episode 44

Epic finish to a great battle.  Not only that, I didn't expect the driver to be able to kick some ass either.  Better yet, next time is the start of ZA WARUDO!  These next few episodes are going to be amazing.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on May 22, 2015, 04:57:06 PM
44:

Really? They're going out like that?
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on May 23, 2015, 02:58:23 PM
44:

Never forget ;_;7
(http://i.imgur.com/rZYq2OV.jpg)
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on May 23, 2015, 04:07:23 PM
44:
He's finally here!

And he brought the dry ice.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on May 29, 2015, 11:19:09 AM
45:
Oh boy. That preview. It did everything but say Kakiyoin is going to die.

Intense episode btw.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on May 29, 2015, 11:22:23 AM
Episode 45

MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Oh yeah, shit is about to get real next episode. 
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on May 29, 2015, 06:13:06 PM
45:

I'd forgotten how much of a boss Dio is. Probably the most menacing villain in anime.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on June 05, 2015, 11:23:52 AM
46:

Holey shit.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on June 05, 2015, 01:52:13 PM
46:

Happy National Donut Day Kakyoin

This episode left me with an empty sinking feeling in my gut.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on June 05, 2015, 02:03:30 PM
Following the example of my colleague, I will also make a pun via edit.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on June 05, 2015, 07:55:29 PM
Episode 46

This is going to be one of the greatest finishes in anime ever.  Any other finish in some other show this season is MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA!
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on June 05, 2015, 10:15:10 PM
I just have to add after a rewatch, that ending is getting more and more poignant. At first it was just a smooth and chill way to end an episode, but it's becoming an epitaph. Jotaro walking off alone at the very end is a lonely thing.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on June 12, 2015, 11:38:41 AM
Episode 47

Very fun battle with Dio pulling his infamous knife trick just like he did in the OVA.  But, with more flash and panache this time.  Shit is going to get so real, especially if they re-enact that scene with the steam roller next episode.  Next episode is going to be so glorious.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on June 12, 2015, 02:44:57 PM
46-47:
Oh my god! Takehito Koyasu! You win! You definitely win!
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on June 12, 2015, 04:05:03 PM
47:

JoJo employed some minor deus ex machina, but that's a small price to pay for converting a one-sided massacre to a high-stakes battle of wits. Pretty good.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: thanosmat on June 12, 2015, 04:14:57 PM
tfw alternative opening
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on June 12, 2015, 04:20:13 PM
47:

The idea behind that alternative OP was cream-your-pants good.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Marid King on June 19, 2015, 05:40:58 PM
48:

Dio went out like a buster, but the fight was good.

Stardust Crusaders was as good as JoJo ever got when it peaked, but generally spent it's time elsewhere. About half of it could have been cut out with no loss. I can't say I didn't enjoy myself, especially with D'Arby, Dio, and Steely Dan, but this just isn't the same old wild, high octane WTFuel that Phantom Blood or Battle Tendency were. 

7/10
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: Flash Sword Irene on June 19, 2015, 06:21:24 PM
Finale

Just as they said in the episode, this journey was a lot of fun.  That is why I love the JJBA series in the first place.  Damn, it is going to suck having to wait for another adaptation for who knows how long. Not sure if the next JoJo is Joleyne or not, but I know the next saga will be damn awesome.  It is only with this franchise where I can have this much fun watching anime and it truly is a treat.

My score:

8/10
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on June 19, 2015, 06:59:13 PM
48:
There were a lot of things about this episode that were absolutely fantastic. Between Koyasu Takehito's Nuclear performance (Someone give that guy an award), and Jotaro's last line to Dio (Never piss off Jotaro Kujo) and Polnareff's farewell (Somehow its fitting that he provides the emotional highlight of the show), I don't know what to pick.

It was a fun ride, and personally I liked Part 3 better. 8/10.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: gedata on June 19, 2015, 07:33:03 PM
48:

Great finale. Only regret is that we won't be hearing any more ham and cheese performances from Koyasu as a flamboyant vampire. I want arc 4 so bad it hurts, it sucked having to wait as long as I did for Stardust Crusaders even though this is one of the lesser arcs. Waiting for Diamond is Unbreakable will suck much harder.

oh and 8/10
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: SQA on June 20, 2015, 03:51:38 AM
Having never watched the OVA series, I was waiting for the Steamroller.  I was not disappointed.

Rest in peace, Danny.  After 100 years, you have been avenged!
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: thanosmat on October 24, 2015, 09:40:31 AM
Jojo Part IV anime confirmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrTaVV0Hkng
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: KS on October 24, 2015, 01:04:19 PM
I figured it would be back
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: MCAL on October 24, 2015, 03:01:34 PM
It was only a matter of time.

Looking forward to Slice-of-Life with Stands.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: SQA on October 26, 2015, 12:34:44 AM
Given how well parts 1 & 2 sold (and that everyone knew it was part 3 that they most wanted to adapt), it's not surprising we're getting part 4.  But beyond that, we'll just have to see how things sell.   David Productions has done a great job.
Title: Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Post by: thanosmat on December 20, 2015, 06:29:54 PM
Jojo Part 4 PV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLZP_z2PxCw